Game not starting / Issue with non AVX supporting CPU's

[Sonozaki]

I hope this will help some people encountering crashes on start-up so the game won't even launch.

But from the EA forum and ResetEra I got the following:

If you're on a dated CPU that doesn't support AVX commands you might be not able to start up the game atm. If AVX is needed for the game performance or for the sake of Denuvo idk.

For example I am sitting on a old CPU (X5570), its been able to run many games - newer ones too.

As I lack the money to rebuild my PC around my fairly modern GPU (1080) its a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ situation. Either waiting for a fix by BioWare or asking for a refund OR keeping the game and playing with a new PC.

Atm. I'd recommend to check if your CPU does support AVX - if not either stay away from buying or wait/refund just like me.

I only wish that they named AVX is a requirement to run the game like "Yakuza Like A Dragon" did. Having AVX support is one thing but making it a req. locks out people.

[Kage Goomba]

Seen this happening in Death Stranding as well. No Offense...but its time to upgrade if your in this bracket.

Expecting Devs to continue supporting old architecture (even if you can justify its still relevant) is blood from a stone syndrome.

Odds are this will be ignored sadly. I doubt a mod can fix this.

[Sonozaki]

Originally posted by Kage Goomba:

Seen this happening in Death Stranding as well. No Offense...but its time to upgrade if your in this bracket.

Expecting Devs to continue supporting old architecture (even if you can justify its still relevant) is blood from a stone syndrome.

Odds are this will be ignored sadly. I doubt a mod can fix this.

I am aware of that but its not that easy.

I am on HP Z600 - updating CPU means building a whole new rig and I simply don't have the money for that atm. - that for the next 2 years presumeably.

I'd like to know about that requirement earlier then.

[Sonozaki]

I got no right to ask for a full support but imo even adding Denuvo is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ move - we're talkimg 3 DRMs here: Steam, Origin and Denuvo.

I gotta see if they will patch it or simply asking for a refund / keeping it in my library until the time is right.

I know that my ♥♥♥♥♥ dated and that day would come but i did not expect that on a remaster of a series that released from 2007 - 2012.

[Kage Goomba]

Originally posted by Sonozaki:

Originally posted by Kage Goomba:

Seen this happening in Death Stranding as well. No Offense...but its time to upgrade if your in this bracket.

Expecting Devs to continue supporting old architecture (even if you can justify its still relevant) is blood from a stone syndrome.

Odds are this will be ignored sadly. I doubt a mod can fix this.

I am aware of that but its not that easy.

I am on HP Z600 - updating CPU means building a whole new rig and I simply don't have the money for that atm. - that for the next 2 years presumeably.

I'd like to know about that requirement earlier then.

Yeah I hear you - designed my rig to last me a decade. (yep I'm weird)

I suspect this isn't going to be a "listed" requirement as most people don't know what AVX is - and its presumed your going to be running reasonably current hardware.

The minimum specs are
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Processor: Intel Core i5 3570 or AMD FX-8350
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Your processor is a Xenon X5570 - that means you do not meet the minimum specs in all fairness - even if you can muscle your way into the speed department - its an entirely different family of Intel Processors.

Running an i7 here. While I can outrun you - the speed isn't the issue as evidenced by your issue.

So you did get a heads up in all fairness. You likely presumed it was going to run assuming you had ME1/2/3 and the age of the game.
Not an bad presumption - but its a remaster - had to come with new code/baggage to tilt that against you.

If that makes sense.

Also - ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about DRM (not that I disagree entirely) - waste of time.
For as long as people futz with games and pirate them - you will always have DRM to deal with.

Using Steam by definition - is DRM.
I'll admit - this is overkill - running Steam AND Origin AND whatever else is there - is kind of insane - but it ran smooth enough that I didn't notice anything.
They even bothered to auto shutdown Origin - a client I do not particularly care for.
Launching on first time tho was a bit of a pain point - but it was a one time ordeal.

[Sonozaki]

Originally posted by Kage Goomba:

Originally posted by Sonozaki:

I am aware of that but its not that easy.

I am on HP Z600 - updating CPU means building a whole new rig and I simply don't have the money for that atm. - that for the next 2 years presumeably.

I'd like to know about that requirement earlier then.

Yeah I hear you - designed my rig to last me a decade. (yep I'm weird)

I suspect this isn't going to be a "listed" requirement as most people don't know what AVX is - and its presumed your going to be running reasonably current hardware.

The minimum specs are
---
Processor: Intel Core i5 3570 or AMD FX-8350
---

Your processor is a Xenon X5570 - that means you do not meet the minimum specs in all fairness - even if you can muscle your way into the speed department - its an entirely different family of Intel Processors.

Running an i7 here. While I can outrun you - the speed isn't the issue as evidenced by your issue.

So you did get a heads up in all fairness. You likely presumed it was going to run assuming you had ME1/2/3 and the age of the game.
Not an bad presumption - but its a remaster - had to come with new code/baggage to tilt that against you.

If that makes sense.

It does but for example: I've been able to run DOOM Eternal without problems, a fairly more modern game.

[Kage Goomba]

Originally posted by Sonozaki:

Originally posted by Kage Goomba:

Yeah I hear you - designed my rig to last me a decade. (yep I'm weird)

I suspect this isn't going to be a "listed" requirement as most people don't know what AVX is - and its presumed your going to be running reasonably current hardware.

The minimum specs are
---
Processor: Intel Core i5 3570 or AMD FX-8350
---

Your processor is a Xenon X5570 - that means you do not meet the minimum specs in all fairness - even if you can muscle your way into the speed department - its an entirely different family of Intel Processors.

Running an i7 here. While I can outrun you - the speed isn't the issue as evidenced by your issue.

So you did get a heads up in all fairness. You likely presumed it was going to run assuming you had ME1/2/3 and the age of the game.
Not an bad presumption - but its a remaster - had to come with new code/baggage to tilt that against you.

If that makes sense.

It does but for example: I've been able to run DOOM Eternal without problems, a fairly more modern game.

Just because the dev's choose to support a platform that's aging out - doesn't make it a modern game compared to say "Death Stranding"

I get what your saying - I'm not unsympahthetic - but this what the industry is right now.

Much like people running Windows 7 - if you don't upgrade - you will run into problems.
Brute forcing may work - will eventually be a losing battle.

Course its not lost on me knowing that the hardware industry is making it harder to upgrade (GPU's for example)

But still - I strongly advise you to invest in an upgrade as soon as you can.
You will see this happening more than you care to like.

[Sonozaki]

I am just a bit disappointed, as so far the age never prevented the game from running as those specs usually only rely on the performance aspect.

With the fact that I can't change my setup anytime soon its a great combination. :-/

[Deckard]

Many thanks Sonozaki ! had the same problem on Death Stranding. Without AVX support there is no way to play the game and dev will never do anything. My I7 980 Xtreme is still a monster CPU but too old. You made me save 60 bucks !

[Sonozaki]

Originally posted by Kage Goomba:

Originally posted by Sonozaki:

It does but for example: I've been able to run DOOM Eternal without problems, a fairly more modern game.

Just because the dev's choose to support a platform that's aging out - doesn't make it a modern game compared to say "Death Stranding"

I get what your saying - I'm not unsympahthetic - but this what the industry is right now.

Much like people running Windows 7 - if you don't upgrade - you will run into problems.
Brute forcing may work - will eventually be a losing battle.

Course its not lost on me knowing that the hardware industry is making it harder to upgrade (GPU's for example)

But still - I strongly advise you to invest in an upgrade as soon as you can.
You will see this happening more than you care to like.

There are reasons why i i stepped away from buying newer games - and thats one of them.
Beeing afraid that my PC won't make the cut.

Well I will try that but I don't see an upgrade nowhere close in the next 2.5 years.
(Worked, now on 3 year vacation to study (getting paid for that) but due to the average living costs atm i can't put much on the side atm.) Maybe if i change my appartment next year..gotta see.

Without a fix is not refunding is unlikely sadly - but those 60€ could be the start for a new PC then (if nothing else comes across....]^^

[Sonozaki]

Originally posted by Rhylsadar:

Many thanks Sonozaki ! had the same problem on Death Stranding. Without AVX support there is no way to play the game and dev will never do anything. My I7 980 Xtreme is still a monster CPU but too old. You made me save 60 bucks !

you're welcome! Maybe it'll change but I don't see that atm :/

May we happily play the game one day.

[Energyturtle]

What a disappointment....I'm just glad I swore off preordering after Andromeda

[Energyturtle]

Thank you for the info, put in for a refund. So disappointing

[lindoriel]

i have an Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10900K CPU @ 3.70GHz (20 CPUs), ~3.7GHz and i have only see the launcher ..... idk if it's truely avx the big problem

[Sonozaki]

Originally posted by lindoriel:

i have an Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-10900K CPU @ 3.70GHz (20 CPUs), ~3.7GHz and i have only see the launcher ..... idk if it's truely avx the big problem

there are several issues but AVX seems to be one of those.
This thread is solely for covering that - people on CPU's from pre 2011 or later ones that might not got the AVX offset.

May not apply to everyone. :/

[yayokay]

Originally posted by Sonozaki:

Originally posted by Kage Goomba:

Seen this happening in Death Stranding as well. No Offense...but its time to upgrade if your in this bracket.

Expecting Devs to continue supporting old architecture (even if you can justify its still relevant) is blood from a stone syndrome.

Odds are this will be ignored sadly. I doubt a mod can fix this.

I am aware of that but its not that easy.

I am on HP Z600 - updating CPU means building a whole new rig and I simply don't have the money for that atm. - that for the next 2 years presumeably.

I'd like to know about that requirement earlier then.

thats your problem if you are using old hardware. just buy some cheap 700$ PC. Should be enough for all current games.