Mass Effect: Andromeda 2 and 3 When can we get it??

[Centisteed]

Hey All,

Why are they not getting Andromeda 2 and 3 underway? My expectations were with ME:A were that it would create procedural generated systems that could go on forever, so you could keep playing the game even after finishing the trilogy, akin to No Man's Sky, but with the edgy ME look and feel.

For instance, between Andromeda 1 and 2, they could've setup the procedural system for the pathfinder to explore systems/worlds and then when Andromeda 2 came out, it could use the data of the things you've discovered as of the story line and then get into the next part of the trilogy.

It would have been so epic if they had continued this. They don't need to go back to the Milky Way after creating a new story, even larger in the grand scale of things. To go back to the Milky Way to rehash the nostalgia of the first trilogy is incredibly small-minded and stupid. You can just re-play the first ME trilogy...I mean they killed off Shepherd ffs so what is the point of going through the Milky Way? You'll just get a new leading role and new missions...basically nothing any different than what was already done with ME:A, only it would be in the Milky Way...it's utterly pointless, after already establishing the direction in ME:A....letting ME:A sit is a seriously wasted opportunity.

[Centisteed]

N7_Shadow eredeti hozzászólása:

Centisteed eredeti hozzászólása:

The current news from N7 day is that they're tying Andromeda into the trilogy. So it's not being rewritten or excluded.

I still don't understand all the negativity towards MEA. I played it all the way through, as I did with Inquisition, and I enjoyed it. I didn't get around to playing it a second time as I had other games on the large list of games I have to play.

Designing alien cultures is difficult. Anyone read the MEA paperbacks? I got about 1/2 way through the first one...need to go back and restart it. The trilogy of paperbacks that came out with MEA was a nice touch to getting into the immersion.

I'm kinda hoping the next sequel will be Mass Effect: Local Group expand further out into multiple galaxies. This is what ME is all about: giant concepts...not about having it be exactly the same thing it was in the original trilogy, because someone in a committee went out and asked a few focus groups what their opinion would be about what they want to do, and then build this bland, homogenized, built by committee bull-crap that will get absolutely nowhere. If anything, it was the committee marketing that ruined MEA.

The original ME1 was rough...it was not popular and most ppl didn't care about it...but they build ME 2 and 3 anyway. They could've easily scrapped it based on the lackluster whining from ME 1, but they didn't.

If they're not going to be traveling to other galaxies and just dealing with Reapers again to cash in on nostalgia, I'd say the next addition will be too small-minded for a Mass Effect sequel.

1. Even I suspected they would eventually incorporate Andromeda into the trilogy. What will make it or break it, is how they do it. The characters of MEA get thrashed in every poll where they are pitted against the OT characters. Tying that anchor to this game would be a bad idea. A time jump to eliminate most of them would be the ideal way to do things. If not a time jump, a "tragic event" that eliminates most of the previous characters. This way they have a blank slate to incorporate new fresh characters.

2. If you don't understand the negativity, you haven't been paying attention, and read too many game articles that never addressed the actual issue. It's probably not even your fault because many people aren't willing to talk about it because of cancel culture, but that's not as much of a worry now.

The biggest reason for the bitterness and why it failed, is easy...people didn't like it. But the hard part is why. Again, that's hard for some to know because of cancel culture. You have to make people feel safe in expressing themselves, or they won't. They still feel that way, but they just remain quiet.

#1 reason is woke. Some don't see it, while others see it plain as day. Their eyes are open. And it's not just the visible agenda, it's how the ideology of the Devs infect many aspects of the game. It's been discussed here a lot.

3. If your game has to rely on side novels to succeed, it failed. Not all gamers like to read novels. Not all novel readers like to play games. Some people like both. But the game has to be able to stand on its own.

4. I was excited about the possibilities Andromeda could bring. The game sold well. People weren't expecting a carbon copy of the OT. We knew Shepard's story was over. I will agree that focus groups shouldn't be given too high of a pedestal. It's OK to do market research, but that's better done through large surveys. Plus, who you have on a focus group can vary. Imagine just having movie critics on a focus group. We would get a lot of movies that suck.

But you also kind of hint towards this, "Change is Good" mentality. No. Not really. Let me give an example. You do realize there is a Corvette Enthusiasts Club, right? Most Corvette Owners are members. Now, imagine Chevy introducing the all new Corvette...but it's a very sporty mini-van. They tout all the advantages...more cargo room, safer, the whole family can ride along, etc... Yeah see, if they did that, they should expect serious backlash from the Corvette Enthusiasts. Right? My point being, when building on something that came before, you cannot just grant your self a blank slate. You can't just make changes willy nilly. Disney/LucasFilm are struggling to repair Star Wars after the previous leadership did that. Amazon is in a pickle after allowing their show runners to destroy the Tolkien Canon. You have to respect the canon, the lore, and why fans are fans in the first place. So did we want a Shepard 2.0? Yes, we did. We wanted to play Mass Effect, not "Woke Explorers and Scientists in Space making insane choices that should have gotten everybody killed." Shall we start with how stupid it would be to invade a galaxy without a viable Navy? So you're just going to invade with huge freezers full of meat popsicles and hope the locals don't decide you taste good, with their homemade sauce?


5. ME1 was actually very popular. It sold well, and it's success was the very reason they even made ME2. It was successful enough to be converted to PC. On a very large gaming forum I was part of, somebody asked which games could be turned into movies. Mass Effect was #2 in the voting. I think Elder Scrolls was #1, if I remember right.

The only thing ME1 suffered from was that Game technology was rapidly advancing at that time, which is why ME2 looks so much better, after just 3 years between release of the two games. That is still continuing. Games today are amazing. In my lifetime, we went from PONG, to near virtual reality.


6. Nobody wants the Reapers back. Not most people anyway. What we want is a non-woke Character and Crew we can enjoy. They need to cater to the majority, which Andromeda did not. Cater to the majority, and then add in options for the minority of gamers. This is already being done when you think about it. Most gamers are white males. OK, so we got white male Shepard. But you had the option of playing a female, and changing the race of your character, male or female. And you could alter the way they looked, making them look better, or worse than the default characters.

There are many things they can give us options on. Sexuality of the NPCs. Maybe an option for them being woke. Most don't want this. Lessons need to be learned from Andromeda. The bugs and animations are NOT the cause for the hate. ME:LE actually kept animation bugs, and introduced an eye animation bug, and people didn't care. This was just low hanging fruit everyone could use to rage against the game. It wasn't the real issue.

Where do you keep coming up with this crazy crap? I'm not talking about marketing or polls or what other people think. I have my own opinions derived from playing the game. One thing I really don't care about is what you think of it, so feel free to quit replying these screeds to anything I say. Your argument is a complete failure. I'm not looking at the game from a political standpoint nor do I care who is literate or not. The ME books are there, take it or leave it, and I read the ME books for the original trilogy too. Based on your replies, I can tell you're not literate either. So good for you.

[Centisteed]

Elazul eredeti hozzászólása:

Yhvh10 eredeti hozzászólása:

Hopefully never. I never want to see Andromeda again.

100% this.

Andromeda was so unpopular it almost killed the entire franchise. They had a bunch of DLC planned for it, but cancelled it all due to everyone rightfully hating it. I sincerely doubt they will ever do an Andromeda 2 or 3.

No it's not 100% that. It's just the usual whiney vocal minority that whines louder than the silent majority who enjoyed it. People that like a game don't go running out to the forums and telling everybody about it incessantly. Only whiners do that for negativity reasons. It's the only explanation.

I played the game and it is not any of the things people describe. It's certainly not comparable to the recent Star Wars movie trilogy or anything that Disney made or the latest horse dead-flogging JRR Tolkien's masterpieces or the MCU, or anything like that. MEA is NOTHING LIKE THAT!!!

But the Republican Cult Leadership that seems to exist on this forum thinks it is. If you have a hammer in hand, all you see are nails everywhere. It's single-minded tunnel vision by the "Red Wave" that thinks MEA was like this and then run around trying to convince people that NEVER played it, that is somehow like the awful movies that have been coming out the past few years.

I've tried to watch those awful movies and I can't. I played MEA all the way through and loved it! So that should tell you right there, that MEA is not like a crap Disney or Amazon movie/series. Not even close!!

[Yhvh10]

I was gonna reply but then this

Centisteed eredeti hozzászólása:

But the Republican Cult Leadership that seems to exist on this forum

Jfc. Do you also wear a tinfoil hat and listen to Vaush?

[N7_Shadow]

Centisteed eredeti hozzászólása:

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The only failure is your ability to control your emotions, and carry on an adult conversation with other adults. Maybe that's out fault for assuming you are an adult. I keep forgetting that's not a requirement on these forums.

[Tony]

LOL

[Centisteed]

Yhvh10 eredeti hozzászólása:

I was gonna reply but then this

Centisteed eredeti hozzászólása:

But the Republican Cult Leadership that seems to exist on this forum

Jfc. Do you also wear a tinfoil hat and listen to Vaush?

Right wing Cults are the tinfoil conspiracy theorists. Like most of the Red party, they like to point out problems, but never any method for solving them...they're just whiney vocal minority.

N7_Shadow eredeti hozzászólása:

Centisteed eredeti hozzászólása:

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The only failure is your ability to control your emotions, and carry on an adult conversation with other adults. Maybe that's out fault for assuming you are an adult. I keep forgetting that's not a requirement on these forums.

No, when you've explained your position 10+ times saying the same thing every time is when I lost it. I don't care about your focus groups and committee or that everyone has to like the game before I have to like it. Go back and speak to your Base about it. Me? I think for myself.

[Yhvh10]

I got it! Mass Effect Andromeda failed because of Hitler!

There. Question solved everyone! We can all go home.

[N7_Shadow]

Yhvh10 eredeti hozzászólása:

I got it! Mass Effect Andromeda failed because of Hitler!

There. Question solved everyone! We can all go home.

LOL

[Elazul]

Centisteed eredeti hozzászólása:

Elazul eredeti hozzászólása:

100% this.

Andromeda was so unpopular it almost killed the entire franchise. They had a bunch of DLC planned for it, but cancelled it all due to everyone rightfully hating it. I sincerely doubt they will ever do an Andromeda 2 or 3.

No it's not 100% that. It's just the usual whiney vocal minority that whines louder than the silent majority who enjoyed it. People that like a game don't go running out to the forums and telling everybody about it incessantly. Only whiners do that for negativity reasons. It's the only explanation.

I played the game and it is not any of the things people describe. It's certainly not comparable to the recent Star Wars movie trilogy or anything that Disney made or the latest horse dead-flogging JRR Tolkien's masterpieces or the MCU, or anything like that. MEA is NOTHING LIKE THAT!!!

But the Republican Cult Leadership that seems to exist on this forum thinks it is. If you have a hammer in hand, all you see are nails everywhere. It's single-minded tunnel vision by the "Red Wave" that thinks MEA was like this and then run around trying to convince people that NEVER played it, that is somehow like the awful movies that have been coming out the past few years.

I've tried to watch those awful movies and I can't. I played MEA all the way through and loved it! So that should tell you right there, that MEA is not like a crap Disney or Amazon movie/series. Not even close!!

u mad bro?

[Elazul]

Yhvh10 eredeti hozzászólása:

I got it! Mass Effect Andromeda failed because of Hitler!

There. Question solved everyone! We can all go home.

Seems legit! I mean the Reapers were trying to commit genocide right?