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Kai Jun 17, 2021 @ 4:11am
Mass Effect is DEAD
Do people really hope for a decent bioware game from EA? from EA? Even if they brought back some of the old devs back, and by some miracle, technically the game turns out to be a decent rpg, but the narrative? In this climate do we really expect a normal game without any sort of injected idealism? I really dont think so. I wish for it, but nahh its not happening.
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Originally posted by Arcane Teuton:
Originally posted by iza:
Originally posted by Mikalana:
except that's simply not a thing. Both Mass Effect and Dragon Age give you ample opportunities to opt out of starting a relationship with any romancable characters. and they've done a wonderful job (most times. they did Thane dirty) conveying what is a flirtatious option, and what is not.
If you don't want to play a gay romance, you have every option, and tool available to you *not* to play a gay romance.
If every person would be as reasonable as you are, the industry and the community would be a better place. The keyphrase is "you can choose NOT to" and people should remember it is only a video game. I wish they knew that being different in terms of sexuality is still a problem in society, especially in the states and I used to live in California...

The second you see someone you agree with, it's "reasonable?" To automatically view someone as reasonable just because they agree with you is probably why you have been arguing up to this point, and losing. That's not a logical response, that's an emotional one.

Having the option to not engage in a terrible romantic storyline isn't the solution. The solution is to just not have them. Quality over quantity. If you feel the need that you must have your sexuality represented in a game, no matter the quality, it just must be there, that's a checkmark for every game you consider buying.... Then you're fragile about your own sexuality.

Believe it or not, all these "options" take time to produce, even if they are God-awful. It takes from the budget of the game, it needs to be animated, it needs to be written.... Why do you think people are calling the more modern Assassins Creed games "As wide as an ocean, as deep as a puddle?" Because they keep trying to be "inclusive." The problem is, they are trying too hard. They are like "oh this would be cool to implement!" But they never think beyond that initial stage.

It wastes people's time to expect them to wade through bad storylines to find a good one, just cause you wanted to be "inclusive." If you want to make a game focusing on LGBT romance then cool, but having a requirement of "okay we must have customizable genders and a full modern understanding of sexuality in our game about vikings" is just stupid. It's pandering, it doesn't bring anything of value to the table.

I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about most romances in games unless they are really well written. Which is why I usually despise most "lgbt" romances in games. They know people will eat them up regardless of if they are written well or not, so they save money, hire a bad writer, and make people who are fragile about their own lives and constantly seek validation feel validated. That takes away from the rest of the game, people complain about that, and then the faulty point of "well it's OPTIONAL" or "its not the main focus of the gAME" comes up.

Originally posted by iza:
Originally posted by Kai:
Thats a bad excuse for lazy writing and VA.
No, it is just something you don't agree with. The majority of "gamers" doesn't care about it and the dialogue and immersion were one of the least problems CDPR had. If that is your biggest concern about the game, then we'll agree to disagree. It is just a design choice. I genuinely hope you're not one of these "MUH POLITICS IN VIDEOGAMES" because they've been in there for decades. If you believe Fallout: New Vegas had no politics and was "just a great game", I'm going to lose my mind.

You fail to realize this here too. They obviously spent too much time on that crap, and not enough polishing the game. And the reason most people don't complain about it, is because while bad, it's not the worst thing about the game. Therefore you're only going to find a Youtube video with like 3,000 views doing a review on that, unless Cyberpunk gets patched to be a good game, but the remnants of the bad choices remain.

It's easy to spot and complain about the symptoms, but not recognize the cause.
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alexander_dougherty Jun 17, 2021 @ 4:43am 
Same for every other games developer out there.... so not sure what your point is.
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Kai Jun 17, 2021 @ 4:46am 
Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:
Same for every other games developer out there.... so not sure what your point is.
Really? Does this apply to Larian or Obsidian? not a chance with CDPR
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alexander_dougherty Jun 17, 2021 @ 5:08am 
Originally posted by Kai:
Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:
Same for every other games developer out there.... so not sure what your point is.
Really? Does this apply to Larian or Obsidian? not a chance with CDPR
Well I have played really bad games by Obsidian, so yes.
I have also played The Outer Worlds by Obsidian too, so they can produce good games too.

It's rather random as to which games developer will produce the next game I will find worth playing, it could be any of them, and I can guarantee all of them will produce over-PC/Woke games with bad mechanics.
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The Minted Lady Jun 17, 2021 @ 5:10am 
Any game with a story-driven narrative is going to have some kind of biased view. Even ones with choices. Their stories are based on the mindset and viewpoints of their creators and departures from that are extremely rare, even when doing period pieces. You seem upset with the idea that the Devs might throw a concept in the next game that you don't like; well I can for sure say that there are a lot of concepts in the games I've played over the years that I didn't like, but everything else outweighed that or else I didn't play the game for very long. Nevertheless, I'm sorry we seem to have reached an era where the point of view of certain developers has caused you to feel negatively towards their storytelling abilities. It's always frustrating when you feel left out of a conversation because the majority prefer or at least tolerate things one way while you're left wondering if you'll ever be properly represented.
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n#n#m# Jun 17, 2021 @ 6:24am 
Can't wait to go play F: NV, right?
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5ean5ean Jun 17, 2021 @ 6:38am 
Originally posted by Kai:
Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:
Same for every other games developer out there.... so not sure what your point is.
Really? Does this apply to Larian or Obsidian? not a chance with CDPR

I remember when CDPR was the best and the crown jewel of the entire gaming industry.... until they weren't. Same with Bethesda and Bioware.

Keep thinking game devs and publishers are your best friend and aren't in it to make money.
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r1540 Jun 17, 2021 @ 6:41am 
Andromeda is Mass Effect 4! Get over it.
If another ME4j was ever created it would be hated as much as Andromeda is. So why in the world would anyone even try???
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Jan Jun 17, 2021 @ 6:52am 
I liked ME Andromeda and DA Inquisition. Sure, they are "different" than the original games but that does not make them bad. I am really locking forward to ME5 and DA4. People are always so whiny and negative, don´t get it.
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Kai Jun 17, 2021 @ 7:42am 
Originally posted by 5ean5ean:
Originally posted by Kai:
Really? Does this apply to Larian or Obsidian? not a chance with CDPR

I remember when CDPR was the best and the crown jewel of the entire gaming industry.... until they weren't. Same with Bethesda and Bioware.

Keep thinking game devs and publishers are your best friend and aren't in it to make money.
Thats just statistical assumption because they havent done anything yet. CDPR vocally stays away from nonsense like these, but greed is stronger than virtue in business, it takes over at the end.

Still, Ill take a normal buggy game over woke garbage any day because bugs can be fixed.
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Kai Jun 17, 2021 @ 7:44am 
Originally posted by alexander_dougherty:
Originally posted by Kai:
Really? Does this apply to Larian or Obsidian? not a chance with CDPR
Well I have played really bad games by Obsidian, so yes.
I have also played The Outer Worlds by Obsidian too, so they can produce good games too.

It's rather random as to which games developer will produce the next game I will find worth playing, it could be any of them, and I can guarantee all of them will produce over-PC/Woke games with bad mechanics.
I totally forgot Obsidian is completely under Microsoft now, so yeah its probably coming soon.
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Xazomn Jun 17, 2021 @ 8:02am 
Then you just have to look for good platforms, you will notice how ME series lives among the real fans. Even Adromeda. Look You don't like it. That's your opinion, many others like it. I don't like so many games. But that doesn't mean many others think it's a cool game. I can't wait for ME4 to come. And I think Adromeda wasn't ME4 otherwise it was called Mass Effect 4: Adromeda. That there is some family in it and background story of the trilogy is far from the story that Adromeda is about. The only thing that annoys me is that they didn't do anything with the open ending in it and moved on with Anthem. Which I have absolutely nothing to do with.
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GlorFindel1983 Jun 17, 2021 @ 8:06am 
I really didn't expect decent single player EA game, since like forever (Mirror's Edge, maybe), but then Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order happened! So it could happen, weirder things did happen in the future!
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Jon_Smith Jun 17, 2021 @ 8:09am 
Originally posted by Krowten:
You're right. And even if they tried to make a game without injecting the current western progressiveism into the game they would get so much blowback from the vocal minority that they would cave-in an instant and add it in anyways.

Here are a few things I thought of that are slightly tongue in cheek but also totally possible:

- The new shepard would be a trans gay ethnic minority (by western standards) and would have to be voiced by a trans gay person. In the new corporate zeitgeist male shepard is a white savior so he's gone. All of you hoping he comes back are delusional.

- Good and Evil are gone. The reapers have a reason for doing what they do but they are clearly evil and destructive. The new bad guys will just be misunderstood and the lines will be blurred.

- No more nuanced protagonists like Ashley who are good people but have biases towards alien races that they have to overcome. In this new era Ashley would just be a villain.

- I hope you like ugly females because that's what you're going to get. Being beautiful and showing it is objectifying to womxn, I'm sorry, I mean persons who give birth. So expect more ugly Asari and females in general just like in Andromeda, even though most Asari are shown to be beautiful in the trilogy.

- Fat people fat pride and I'm not talking about the adorable Volus. They'll find a way to further subvert the typical and majority accepted ideals of beauty by adding this crap in.

So yeah you're right. It would be a dumpster fire which is why I'm grateful that the trilogy was made when it was instead of now.


I keep hearing this utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
The doomsayers think the entire world is out to get them, the reality is far, far, far from the truth.

Remember the stupid rumours idiots started about ME:LE,
They were removing the option to punch the reporter, the Asari who was enthralled by the Thorian would no longer be green in ME2 cause of 'racism', that relationship options were being changed.
Literally the only thing we got was a couple of slight camera angle adjustments. Thats it. Miranda still have her rocking body and beautiful face, you perverts even get a photo mode to explore her on every angle.

Quit with this nonsense.
You are making strawmen to argue against. Game are more progressive than they were 15 years ago, whoop de do. I should hope they are, society moves on. Its cool its now more common that we get options for different genders, that gay relationships are now options in games etc etc.
Stop dragging your knuckles and making extreme non-sensical statements without any evidence to back it up.

I mean name me one AAA title with the stuff you are insisting the publishers will want the devs to put in the game?
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Kai Jun 17, 2021 @ 8:09am 
Originally posted by glorfindel1983:
I really didn't expect decent single player EA game, since like forever (Mirror's Edge, maybe), but then Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order happened! So it could happen, weirder things did happen in the future!
JFO was an okay game, 6/10 at best. It has a major flaw on top of being mediocre.
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GlorFindel1983 Jun 17, 2021 @ 8:11am 
Originally posted by Kai:
Originally posted by glorfindel1983:
I really didn't expect decent single player EA game, since like forever (Mirror's Edge, maybe), but then Star Wars: Jedi Fallen Order happened! So it could happen, weirder things did happen in the future!
JFO was an okay game, 6/10 at best. It has a major flaw on top of being mediocre.

Yes, I said decent and single player only; so 6/10 is about right! Although, I would give it 7/10!
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