Newbie - cannot go beyond 5pts Charm

[patrick.desbois]

Hi there,

1st time playing this (bought straight MELE) and one of the things that keep bothering me: my Sentinel always choosing Paragon option dialogs cannot go beyond Charm 5 pts. I mean there is not even a 6th empty slot to fill.

I have been postponing 2 level ups coz some dialog options require you to have 7, 8 etc.... and I still only see 5 pts there. Also, I cannot see how much Paragon I am as I see only between 2-3 slots of the scale filled... How can I have more slots for Charm?

Many thx - p

EDIT: I am still in the Citadel, doing those many sidequests (getting data from Fist and saving Tali), but postponed e.g. the Medic Room with Clhoe etc...

[HALO_run]

it goes up over time that's all im going to say

[patrick.desbois]

Originally posted by HALO_run:

it goes up over time that's all im going to say

thx - so these sidequests in Citadel that require higher Charm, i can do them later...?

[Halcyform]

If you are worried about having a high enough charisma, or renegade, for dealing with content, then stick to doing side missions/quests for awhile and don't touch much of the main stuff unless that's all you have in your journal.

[Halcyform]

Originally posted by patrick.desbois:

Originally posted by HALO_run:

it goes up over time that's all im going to say

thx - so these sidequests in Citadel that require higher Charm, i can do them later...?

From what I've seen, if you have the ability to back out of the choice, you can come back to it later.

[every1hasnames]

this is how it works. you have the charm intimidate slots you can put points in.

You only get a certain number of slots to put points in at the start of the game.

to get more slots. You have to raise your paragon or renegade. Paragon is attached to charm. Renegade is intimidate. You do this by picking the paragon or renegade options in dialogue. These dooes not include just the blue and red colored dialogue options.


YOu also get points for paragon or renegade by normal white color options. You just get more if the dialogue option is blue or red. blue paragon red renegade.

But theres also white colored dialogue options that are renegade and paragon. YOu can tell this. By the location the dialogue option is.

Paragon is always the top option. Renegade is always the bottom option. The middle option tends to be neutral.



Your problem is you havent got your paragon up high enough to gain more slots for you to put points in charm.


You need to continue playing the game picking more options that give paragon points.

[n#n#m#]

Advance in main plot – you'll get a few more slots in Charm/Intimidate

[Geralt]

I think during one of your meetings with the council, you actually get the ability to go even further too.

The Paragon points do raise it but you need to be a TINY bit further in the story to raise the cap of 5 too.

You can always come back and do these quests later too.

[HALO_run]

Originally posted by patrick.desbois:

Originally posted by HALO_run:

it goes up over time that's all im going to say

thx - so these sidequests in Citadel that require higher Charm, i can do them later...?

yep you can do em later, like the posts ^ say

[Lektro Wulff]

Originally posted by HALO_run:

Originally posted by patrick.desbois:

thx - so these sidequests in Citadel that require higher Charm, i can do them later...?

yep you can do em later, like the posts ^ say

Best to have at least 9 Charm/Intimidate to pass the sidequests there.

[patrick.desbois]

thx guys!

[patrick.desbois]

hi - just wanted to get an opinion from you experts, regarding an observation made on this link (playing a Sentinel Spacer War Hero with skill focus on Charm, Decrypt and Electronics):

https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Completionist_Achievement_Guide#Prologue

Specifically this part: "Head straight to the Citadel, *avoiding all assignments*; Exposing Saren - Note: Avoid triggering any assignments!"

Can you confirm that getting to expose Saren asap will *NOT* make any of the other assignments/ sidequests unavailable?

Also, in you experience, is it necessary to have Decrypting and Electronics at Avanced to access/ bypass the challenges in this 1st Citadel visit?

Many thanks! - p

[Lektro Wulff]

Originally posted by patrick.desbois:

hi - just wanted to get an opinion from you experts, regarding an observation made on this link (playing a Sentinel Spacer War Hero with skill focus on Charm, Decrypt and Electronics):

https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Completionist_Achievement_Guide#Prologue

Specifically this part: "Head straight to the Citadel, *avoiding all assignments*; Exposing Saren - Note: Avoid triggering any assignments!"

Can you confirm that getting to expose Saren asap will *NOT* make any of the other assignments/ sidequests unavailable?

Also, in you experience, is it necessary to have Decrypting and Electronics at Avanced to access/ bypass the challenges in this 1st Citadel visit?

Many thanks! - p

1. Nope, sidequests will not expire by exposing Saren, in fact it's the opposite. More sidequests are unlocked.
2. Advanced D/E is not required for first visit, although if you're really worried about that you can focus on maxing D/E on yourself or a squadmate if you want. Those two are really good skills in combat anyway. It's up to you, so long as you do it at some point.

[patrick.desbois]

Originally posted by Lektro Wulff:

Originally posted by patrick.desbois:

hi - just wanted to get an opinion from you experts, regarding an observation made on this link (playing a Sentinel Spacer War Hero with skill focus on Charm, Decrypt and Electronics):

https://masseffect.fandom.com/wiki/Completionist_Achievement_Guide#Prologue

Specifically this part: "Head straight to the Citadel, *avoiding all assignments*; Exposing Saren - Note: Avoid triggering any assignments!"

Can you confirm that getting to expose Saren asap will *NOT* make any of the other assignments/ sidequests unavailable?

Also, in you experience, is it necessary to have Decrypting and Electronics at Avanced to access/ bypass the challenges in this 1st Citadel visit?

Many thanks! - p

1. Nope, sidequests will not expire by exposing Saren, in fact it's the opposite. More sidequests are unlocked.
2. Advanced D/E is not required for first visit, although if you're really worried about that you can focus on maxing D/E on yourself or a squadmate if you want. Those two are really good skills in combat anyway. It's up to you, so long as you do it at some point.

[shmooglavoue]

Charm/Intimidate has tiers that unlock as you progress through the game. The first major unlock is when you become a spectre, letting you go from a cap of 5 to a cap of 10. The second unlock is, I think, when you get 75% of either your paragon or renegade meter full, which unlocks the last two points of charm and intimidate respectively.

Also a bit of a warning on charm/intimidate checks. If you want the best outcome on Feros, you have to pass one of the hardest charm checks in the game (a whopping 12) or a less difficult but still fairly high intimidate check (10). So if you're going paragon, you may want to leave Feros for later.

[patrick.desbois]

thx!

Also where do i see total items in my inventory? what does it mean when i loot something that says medgel +1 etc... I can see my initial limit for 5/5, but i am finding this bit still somewhat unclear. I cannot see where it says how much i have of these medigels etc...