Mass effect 3: Diana Allers should have been Emily Wong

[Alfon]

Or even Kalisa Al-jalani or however she is called. But at least the punchable reporter appears in ME3. Emily Wong doesn't. People say she dies dramatically at some point of the reaper invasion, maybe her death is talked or she appears in the news, I didn't see her at all.

But this is the thing, when you replay the games you really feel good when you find again old characters. And Emily Wong was very likable. Having her on my vessel, maybe having a romance with her (like you can do with Diana Allers) would have been VERY interesting... because you have some history with her. You helped her starting her career.

Instead we have Diana Allers... she is boring and useless and I don't even like the actress, I think she is in a much lower level of talent compared to other actors like Shepard's.

I don't know. Just saying. What do you think?

[Jon_Smith]

Messaggio originale di 5ean5ean:

I'm sorry but "rapper character." I'm kinda rusty with my Fast movie knowledge but did either actually rap in the movie. He's actually plays a tech whiz in the series. You sure you want to go down this arguement and say he wasn't hired for his star power eventhough Ja Rule and Ludacris were 2 completely different characters and have nothing to do with each other. And it still doesn't disprove the point that the franchise want we to hire 2 different rappers who have no acting ability.


But I digress.

And Battlefield failed becuase of Rihanna? Becuae we all know Taylor Kitsch has NEVER made.box officer bombs before. Nothing to do with writing, directing, nope Rihanna. I would argue that without her even less people would have seen that movie.

This thread is hilarious.

Yeah, happy to go down this argument.
Here is an article with interviews from the director, about trying to hire Ja Rule, him refusing because he felt he was 'too big' and Ludacris getting the role instead....
What relevance does his 'tech wiz' status have, that film franchise has absurd continuity. It started off about a gang stealing DVD players, Hobbs and Shaw has two secret agents trying to fight a guy with a super soldier serum......
https://www.projectcasting.com/news/ja-rule-ludacris-fast-and-furious/

So yeah, that argument is completely accurate, Ja Rule was replaced by Ludacris. Whats is your issue?

Besides you are comparing apples and oranges, firstly movies involve seeing an actors face, star power is more of a thing, plus these guys are rappers AND actors. Ludacris is a good actor. Furthermore, they actually have star power.

If a movie were to insert a movie review journalist into one of its roles, then it would be considered an awful move, potential conflict of interest and likely panned by many people if that journalist couldn't act. That would be a more apt comparison.

Fair point on my wording of the Battleship movie, it didn't tank because of Rhianna, but no-one is rushing to see a movie with her in. Queen Latifa on the other hand, she can act when she wants to, but still, no-one cares if she is in a movie because her star power exists in other areas. No-one wanted to play ME because Chobot was in it, and you attached a bunch of garbage baggage to innocent points by taking them too seriously then accused everyone else of taking things to seriously when you were rebuked.

The only hilarious thing in this thread is the idea that you think you weren't grossly wrong for these false assumptions and conceded that you were abit of a hypocrite, instead insisting you are still correct.....

[Jon_Smith]

Messaggio originale di valera-wrx:

at least she is sexy. Nowadays you'll get somebody gender neutral with violet hair, fat cheeks and level100 self-adoring behavior

You see 5ean5ean, this is the sort of post that would warrant your reaction where you assume the worst of a poster or some involvement of 'toxic gamer culture'.

[AbedsBrother]

Messaggio originale di 5ean5ean:

Moving on. Let take Fast and Furrious movies. You think Ludacris was hired for his acting ability? He was hired bc of his star power. But again.....is that his fault that movie wanted him in it bc of who he was and not his acting talent? No... that'show the game is played. You think the voice actress of Emily Wong would create more sales than Jessica Chobot? Sorry to break it to you but Bioware wanted to sell games... this isnt a charity.

Messaggio originale di 5ean5ean:

I'm sorry but "rapper character." I'm kinda rusty with my Fast movie knowledge but did either actually rap in the movie. He's actually plays a tech whiz in the series. You sure you want to go down this arguement and say he wasn't hired for his star power eventhough Ja Rule and Ludacris were 2 completely different characters and have nothing to do with each other. And it still doesn't disprove the point that the franchise wanted to hire 2 different rappers who have no traditional acting ability.

Tej (played by Ludacris / Chris Bridges) first appeared in 2 Fast 2 Furious as a mechanic who organizes / stages the street races. He's adept with money, a good promoter, and puts on a good show. His character morphed into a hacker when the movies got bigger and the writers needed to give Tej a set of skills that would be useful on a larger stage. Not saying Ludacris deserved an Oscar, or that he wasn't hired for his star-power (he was), but he did well with the role and imo is a better actor than people give him credit for.

I had no idea who Jessica Chobot was until I played ME3 and wondered who the terrible VA was for the sexpot reporter. I don't know what IGN's viewership / click-rate was in 2012, but it was definitely less than the millions of copies that ME3 sold. Afaik the only thing she's still sort of remembered for was some promo picture she took licking a controller or something. So I don't buy the whole "she was there b/c star-power" argument.

[valera-wrx]

Messaggio originale di Jon_Smith:

You see 5ean5ean, this is the sort of post that would warrant your reaction where you assume the worst of a poster or some involvement of 'toxic gamer culture'.

whats toxic about it? show me page in Bible where it allows person to misbehave, dont care about their looks and health and then getting preferences for it...
I have nothing against diversity, but no matter of LGBT or not, person should look and behave decently.

[Punished Rusty Shackleford]

Messaggio originale di Wiz33:

Yea, Emily would have been the perfect choice for ME3

it was little things like this that really grinded my gears about 3 which ended up me not liking it even before the red/green/blue ending. Emily was the obvious choice and the one I was expected them to take but they ended up taking the worst possible choice.

[5ean5ean]

Messaggio originale di Jon_Smith:

Messaggio originale di 5ean5ean:

I'm sorry but "rapper character." I'm kinda rusty with my Fast movie knowledge but did either actually rap in the movie. He's actually plays a tech whiz in the series. You sure you want to go down this arguement and say he wasn't hired for his star power eventhough Ja Rule and Ludacris were 2 completely different characters and have nothing to do with each other. And it still doesn't disprove the point that the franchise want we to hire 2 different rappers who have no acting ability.


But I digress.

And Battlefield failed becuase of Rihanna? Becuae we all know Taylor Kitsch has NEVER made.box officer bombs before. Nothing to do with writing, directing, nope Rihanna. I would argue that without her even less people would have seen that movie.

This thread is hilarious.

Yeah, happy to go down this argument.
Here is an article with interviews from the director, about trying to hire Ja Rule, him refusing because he felt he was 'too big' and Ludacris getting the role instead....
What relevance does his 'tech wiz' status have, that film franchise has absurd continuity. It started off about a gang stealing DVD players, Hobbs and Shaw has two secret agents trying to fight a guy with a super soldier serum......
https://www.projectcasting.com/news/ja-rule-ludacris-fast-and-furious/

So yeah, that argument is completely accurate, Ja Rule was replaced by Ludacris. Whats is your issue?

Besides you are comparing apples and oranges, firstly movies involve seeing an actors face, star power is more of a thing, plus these guys are rappers AND actors. Ludacris is a good actor. Furthermore, they actually have star power.

If a movie were to insert a movie review journalist into one of its roles, then it would be considered an awful move, potential conflict of interest and likely panned by many people if that journalist couldn't act. That would be a more apt comparison.

Fair point on my wording of the Battleship movie, it didn't tank because of Rhianna, but no-one is rushing to see a movie with her in. Queen Latifa on the other hand, she can act when she wants to, but still, no-one cares if she is in a movie because her star power exists in other areas. No-one wanted to play ME because Chobot was in it, and you attached a bunch of garbage baggage to innocent points by taking them too seriously then accused everyone else of taking things to seriously when you were rebuked.

The only hilarious thing in this thread is the idea that you think you weren't grossly wrong for these false assumptions and conceded that you were abit of a hypocrite, instead insisting you are still correct.....

1. Okay. So Ludacris made a triple platinum album in 2000 which peaked at number 4 on the Billboard Top 200. Then he made another in 2001 that was another triple platinum album, peaked at 3 on the billboard was nominated for a Grammy. Then the same year he got hired to do Fast and Furious movie he another double platinum album that debuted at number 1 on the Billboard 200 yet.....

you're going to tell me he was kinda a nobody at the time and was just happy to get the role. Smdh. I warned you dont want to get into this arguement. You're just plain wrong, he was a huge star with no acting ability. Or I guess he blew out the water with his acting in "The Wash." Lets move on... thats was a bait, you took it, and failed miserably. I will mercifully end it.

2. Jessica Chobot isn't a journalist, or a reviewer. She a host who get paid for her voice and personality. She had a huge following....the outrage from people who have nothing better to do.

[Punished Rusty Shackleford]

Messaggio originale di valera-wrx:

at least she is sexy. Nowadays you'll get somebody gender neutral with violet hair, fat cheeks and level100 self-adoring behavior

Dangerously BASED comment.

[Jon_Smith]

Messaggio originale di valera-wrx:

Messaggio originale di Jon_Smith:

You see 5ean5ean, this is the sort of post that would warrant your reaction where you assume the worst of a poster or some involvement of 'toxic gamer culture'.

whats toxic about it? show me page in Bible where it allows person to misbehave, dont care about their looks and health and then getting preferences for it...
I have nothing against diversity, but no matter of LGBT or not, person should look and behave decently.

Hahaha, sure, as if the Bible should be used for any kind of judgement on what is 'moral'.
Ya know what with all the rape, incest, genocide, sexism, slavery and general awful behaviour done by either God himself or 'Godly' men.

The Seven Tenets of Satanism are more moral than the flipping 10 comandments

[5ean5ean]

Messaggio originale di AbedsBrother:

Messaggio originale di 5ean5ean:

Moving on. Let take Fast and Furrious movies. You think Ludacris was hired for his acting ability? He was hired bc of his star power. But again.....is that his fault that movie wanted him in it bc of who he was and not his acting talent? No... that'show the game is played. You think the voice actress of Emily Wong would create more sales than Jessica Chobot? Sorry to break it to you but Bioware wanted to sell games... this isnt a charity.

Messaggio originale di 5ean5ean:

I'm sorry but "rapper character." I'm kinda rusty with my Fast movie knowledge but did either actually rap in the movie. He's actually plays a tech whiz in the series. You sure you want to go down this arguement and say he wasn't hired for his star power eventhough Ja Rule and Ludacris were 2 completely different characters and have nothing to do with each other. And it still doesn't disprove the point that the franchise wanted to hire 2 different rappers who have no traditional acting ability.

Tej (played by Ludacris / Chris Bridges) first appeared in 2 Fast 2 Furious as a mechanic who organizes / stages the street races. He's adept with money, a good promoter, and puts on a good show. His character morphed into a hacker when the movies got bigger and the writers needed to give Tej a set of skills that would be useful on a larger stage. Not saying Ludacris deserved an Oscar, or that he wasn't hired for his star-power (he was), but he did well with the role and imo is a better actor than people give him credit for.

I had no idea who Jessica Chobot was until I played ME3 and wondered who the terrible VA was for the sexpot reporter. I don't know what IGN's viewership / click-rate was in 2012, but it was definitely less than the millions of copies that ME3 sold. Afaik the only thing she's still sort of remembered for was some promo picture she took licking a controller or something. So I don't buy the whole "she was there b/c star-power" argument.

Did he rap?

[Jon_Smith]

Messaggio originale di 5ean5ean:

1. Okay. So Ludacris made a triple platinum album in 2000 which peaked at number 4 on the Billboard Top 200. Then he made another in 2001 that was another triple platinum album, peaked at 3 on the billboard was nominated for a Grammy. Then the same year he got hired to do Fast and Furious movie he another double platinum album that debuted at number 1 on the Billboard 200 yet.....

you're going to tell me he was kinda a nobody at the time and was just happy to get the role. Smdh. I warned you dont want to get into this arguement. You're just plain wrong, he was a huge star with no acting ability. Or I guess he blew out the water with his acting in "The Wash." Lets move on... thats was a bait, you took it, and failed miserably. I will mercifully end it.

2. Jessica Chobot isn't a journalist, or a reviewer. She a host who get paid for her voice and personality. She had a huge following....the outrage from people who have nothing better to do.

He WAS a nobody in movies. Music is very niche, an easy example is how huge country singers are in the US, but half the population who don't live in the South have no clue who they are. People aren't going to movies to see a rapper in it, as I pointed out with the Queen Latifa example, but if they are a good enough actor, people start to care. Mos Def is an example, I'd say Childish Gambino has done enough good voice acting and acting roles to now garner attention. Ludacris, at the time, had zero star power in movies.

You claimed he didn't 'replace' Ja Rule, cause he's a tech guy.
You were completely contradicted, I see you conviniently decided to ignore those points and rebuttals...... you wonder why people think you argue in bad faith when you pick and choose so much?

As for point 2, whether her following is huge or not. Thats the point, she was hired not based on her skill or talent, but to pander to IGN and obviously, by proxy, to their viewership, which is absolute crap, and what people are complaining about, its made worse because shes a bad voice actress. What is so hard to grasp?

[Jon_Smith]

Messaggio originale di 5ean5ean:

Messaggio originale di AbedsBrother:

Tej (played by Ludacris / Chris Bridges) first appeared in 2 Fast 2 Furious as a mechanic who organizes / stages the street races. He's adept with money, a good promoter, and puts on a good show. His character morphed into a hacker when the movies got bigger and the writers needed to give Tej a set of skills that would be useful on a larger stage. Not saying Ludacris deserved an Oscar, or that he wasn't hired for his star-power (he was), but he did well with the role and imo is a better actor than people give him credit for.

I had no idea who Jessica Chobot was until I played ME3 and wondered who the terrible VA was for the sexpot reporter. I don't know what IGN's viewership / click-rate was in 2012, but it was definitely less than the millions of copies that ME3 sold. Afaik the only thing she's still sort of remembered for was some promo picture she took licking a controller or something. So I don't buy the whole "she was there b/c star-power" argument.

Did he rap?

Did you see my quotation marks when I wrote 'rapper' character......?
I did this because he isn't a rapper in the movie, and when they wanted to replace him they wanted someone who had the same kind of style, which is of a rapper.......
I never said he was a rapper in the movie, its about a look and style, which is why Ludacris was picked and not Simon Pegg.

[5ean5ean]

Messaggio originale di Jon_Smith:

Messaggio originale di 5ean5ean:

Did he rap?

Did you see my quotation marks when I wrote 'rapper' character......?
I did this because he isn't a rapper in the movie, and when they wanted to replace him they wanted someone who had the same kind of style, which is of a rapper.......
I never said he was a rapper in the movie, its about a look and style, which is why Ludacris was picked and not Simon Pegg.

Rappers "rap"....they dont have a look or stereotype. That is just thier individual style.

Please just stop.

[benwaggoner]

Just a reminder that we're talking about two actual living human beings here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Chobot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anndi_McAfee

I doubt BioWare was making some political statement here. McAfee didn't do any game VO work 2012-2014, thus the most likely reason she wasn't in ME3 is that she wasn't available to record.

[Jon_Smith]

Messaggio originale di 5ean5ean:

Messaggio originale di Jon_Smith:

Did you see my quotation marks when I wrote 'rapper' character......?
I did this because he isn't a rapper in the movie, and when they wanted to replace him they wanted someone who had the same kind of style, which is of a rapper.......
I never said he was a rapper in the movie, its about a look and style, which is why Ludacris was picked and not Simon Pegg.

Rappers "rap"....they dont have a look or stereotype.

Please just stop.

Well done at refuting those points I made about how wrong you were when you said 'eventhough Ja Rule and Ludacris were 2 completely different characters and have nothing to do with each other' despite Ludacris specifically being hired to be a character because Ja Rule refused........

Bad faith arguer indeed.

[5ean5ean]

Messaggio originale di Jon_Smith:

Messaggio originale di 5ean5ean:

Rappers "rap"....they dont have a look or stereotype.

Please just stop.

Well done at refuting those points I made about how wrong you were when you said 'eventhough Ja Rule and Ludacris were 2 completely different characters and have nothing to do with each other' despite Ludacris specifically being hired to be a character because Ja Rule refused........

Bad faith arguer indeed.

Ludacris was hired bc he's Ludacris *and not some nobody like YOU said... they could have easily hired anybody else.

Aka. STAR POWER