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Why can't I fill the cooking pot with sea water?
I started building a base near the ocean - figured i'd just gather sea water and boil it so it became drinkable, right? Turns out I can't fill the cooking pot with sea water. Is this a bug or just a thing ?
Originally posted by Ataxio:
Boiling sea water is just going to give you hot sea water and it would still be lethal.

You would have to distill it, which is more then just boiling water. It would require a device or equipment to collect the evaporated water.

So the devs in this regard are keeping that aspect of realism in line, which they should be. I wouldn't be opposed to a distillation method though.

Edit: I've never seen the ocean, so I had to look this stuff up. You could in theory survive for 6 days drinking only sea water, or up to two gallons before it will kill you.
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Ataxio Jul 15, 2023 @ 6:12pm 
Boiling sea water is just going to give you hot sea water and it would still be lethal.

You would have to distill it, which is more then just boiling water. It would require a device or equipment to collect the evaporated water.

So the devs in this regard are keeping that aspect of realism in line, which they should be. I wouldn't be opposed to a distillation method though.

Edit: I've never seen the ocean, so I had to look this stuff up. You could in theory survive for 6 days drinking only sea water, or up to two gallons before it will kill you.
Last edited by Ataxio; Jul 15, 2023 @ 6:15pm
Smelly Squatch Jul 15, 2023 @ 6:40pm 
As Ataxio said already it would still just be seawater, but the salt concentration would only get higher as you boiled it, making it even more deadly.

Originally posted by Ataxio:
Boiling sea water is just going to give you hot sea water and it would still be lethal.

You would have to distill it, which is more then just boiling water. It would require a device or equipment to collect the evaporated water.
Hellsmoke Jul 15, 2023 @ 10:45pm 
Originally posted by Ataxio:
You could in theory survive for 6 days drinking only sea water, or up to two gallons before it will kill you.

In theory lol but in reality you'd have a hard time getting even a sip or two swallowed. It's not a pleasant experience.

Edit: Also, I grew up in Miami near the beach and you are missing out. It's time to go see the ocean, make it happen. Thank me later.
Last edited by Hellsmoke; Jul 15, 2023 @ 10:47pm
BORG Jul 15, 2023 @ 10:52pm 
Originally posted by Ataxio:
Boiling sea water is just going to give you hot sea water and it would still be lethal.

You would have to distill it, which is more then just boiling water. It would require a device or equipment to collect the evaporated water.

So the devs in this regard are keeping that aspect of realism in line, which they should be. I wouldn't be opposed to a distillation method though.

Edit: I've never seen the ocean, so I had to look this stuff up. You could in theory survive for 6 days drinking only sea water, or up to two gallons before it will kill you.
There should have been a craftabe distiller in the handbook in the first place, for people who prefer to live by the ocean. So much missing content. I get sick of running to rivers just to get a pot of water. Would pair perfect with the ideas I had about having a craftable cistern / water tank we can fill up for the winter months. Can't help, but wonder why they never put these things in the game to begin with. Little pots of water and two sip canteens make it a boringly tedious PITA always having to fetch water (on normal mode) for the entire winter season.
Last edited by BORG; Jul 15, 2023 @ 10:53pm
Duke H. Vytantis Jul 15, 2023 @ 11:39pm 
You wouldn't die from drinking seawater once, because of salt. It's not a poison vial lol.
It might even be a tactic to boil some seawater and add it to a bigger basin of boiled water in the case where you lack salt (as it's a survival setting). Just like you add salt when making soup in a modern day kitchen.

Natrium is super important for the human body.
BORG Jul 16, 2023 @ 12:14am 
A person won't die instantly from it no, but it's not something a person would want to consume regularly. We don't have a basin to dilute sea water. Just a tiny little pot and a canteen. So, unless they add bigger containers like huge containers for water to be diluted with boiled water, sea water would have to be avoided. Why? Well I'll explain.

The primary lethal agent in sea water is salt. Sea water has ~35 gram of salt per liter. Salt has an LD50 of ~3.3 gram per kg of body weight. So that if you drink about 100 ml of sea water per kg that you weight, there is a good chance that you would die.

The proposed dilution process is just more tedium in the mix which I personally would rather avoid.

A Cistern / water tank and distiller cover all bases for not only water storage, but water processing. They cut the tedium out of the mix and it makes more logical sense because drinking salt water could be avoided entirely. It's more efficient and practical.
trevorkrause Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:08am 
Originally posted by Ataxio:
Boiling sea water is just going to give you hot sea water and it would still be lethal.

You would have to distill it, which is more then just boiling water. It would require a device or equipment to collect the evaporated water.

So the devs in this regard are keeping that aspect of realism in line, which they should be. I wouldn't be opposed to a distillation method though.

Edit: I've never seen the ocean, so I had to look this stuff up. You could in theory survive for 6 days drinking only sea water, or up to two gallons before it will kill you.
If you drink sea water for 6 days you are a human that should be drinking sea water for 6 days.
Licgan Jul 16, 2023 @ 5:21am 
I don't think a craft-able desalinization unit is realistic in a survival scenario. HOWEVER, it really surprises me that we are not allowed to melt snow in the cooking pot to create drinkable water in the winter. Why isn't this a thing? Or maybe allow us to start a fire near (or under) a water collector to melt it's collected contents.
Ataxio Jul 16, 2023 @ 9:34am 
Originally posted by Licgan:
I don't think a craft-able desalinization unit is realistic in a survival scenario. HOWEVER, it really surprises me that we are not allowed to melt snow in the cooking pot to create drinkable water in the winter. Why isn't this a thing? Or maybe allow us to start a fire near (or under) a water collector to melt it's collected contents.

Yeah we should be able to melt snow. Maybe they just haven't figured out how to collect it or something to that degree.
Ataxio Jul 16, 2023 @ 9:34am 
Originally posted by trevorkrause:
Originally posted by Ataxio:
Boiling sea water is just going to give you hot sea water and it would still be lethal.

You would have to distill it, which is more then just boiling water. It would require a device or equipment to collect the evaporated water.

So the devs in this regard are keeping that aspect of realism in line, which they should be. I wouldn't be opposed to a distillation method though.

Edit: I've never seen the ocean, so I had to look this stuff up. You could in theory survive for 6 days drinking only sea water, or up to two gallons before it will kill you.
If you drink sea water for 6 days you are a human that should be drinking sea water for 6 days.

With each post you make, it's like your further descending into madness and each thing you say becomes less and less coherent. You seriously remind me of a tweeker out hunting for copper pipes to rip out of walls.
Cryptic Draugr Jul 16, 2023 @ 9:37am 
"water water all around but not a drop to drink"
BORG Jul 16, 2023 @ 9:58am 
Originally posted by Licgan:
I don't think a craft-able desalinization unit is realistic in a survival scenario. HOWEVER, it really surprises me that we are not allowed to melt snow in the cooking pot to create drinkable water in the winter. Why isn't this a thing? Or maybe allow us to start a fire near (or under) a water collector to melt it's collected contents.
Why wouldn't it be? This guy is stranded on an island with lots of things that could be make shifted into a water distiller. As example, we've got pots and tarps that can easily be used to distil water. If you think this is unrealistic, you haven't been in or seen any realistic survival scenarios.

We can't make solar panels. How is that realistic? You just magically find solar big solar panels laying around in crates on the ground, that they shouldn't even fit into. Yeah - realism!

Have you ever seen a crude distiller in your life? It's very, very easy to make one in most survival situations, especially on the island we are given.
Last edited by BORG; Jul 16, 2023 @ 9:59am
trevorkrause Jul 16, 2023 @ 10:41am 
Originally posted by Ataxio:
Originally posted by trevorkrause:
If you drink sea water for 6 days you are a human that should be drinking sea water for 6 days.

With each post you make, it's like your further descending into madness and each thing you say becomes less and less coherent. You seriously remind me of a tweeker out hunting for copper pipes to rip out of walls.

Enjoy your sea water.
grinsekeatzchen Jul 16, 2023 @ 12:07pm 
The fact that He got banned for His harmless comments(i mean He is clearly autistic or very Young), while others ...
He's right, enjoy youre seawater. More salty than this Forum is not possible.
Last edited by grinsekeatzchen; Jul 16, 2023 @ 12:08pm
Maviba Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:55pm 
Originally posted by Duke H. Vytantis:
You wouldn't die from drinking seawater once, because of salt. It's not a poison vial lol.
It might even be a tactic to boil some seawater and add it to a bigger basin of boiled water in the case where you lack salt (as it's a survival setting). Just like you add salt when making soup in a modern day kitchen.

Natrium is super important for the human body.
You wouldn't die from drinking it once, but its unlikely you'd be able of keeping it in your body. It probably would cause you vomit because of the concentration of salt.
And in case you manage it not to vomit, it rather leaves you dehydrated instead of quenching your thirst.
it also can lead to problems with your cardiovascular system because of the eloctrolyte imbalance caused by the excessive salt content in seawater

So unless you've got access to purified water after you drank some seawater, it might cause you some real trouble
Last edited by Maviba; Jul 16, 2023 @ 2:57pm
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