A roadmap would help perception of this game

[Zidawn]

Every update we get adds a ton of content. I can see this game being just as good as The Forest by the time they're done with it. Even if it's not a complete roadmap, just a timeline of estimation would convince a lot of people to hold their judgement.

[Duke H. Vytantis]

heyyyy i like u

[Weaver]

A roadmap would just lead to the same people pitching a fit if any date was missed or moved. It's literally what they are doing now.

It's the same people who knew the game was going to be in Early Access weeks before it could be purchased, bought it knowing it was in Early Access, and then have thrown a fit because it's in Early Access.

[Duke H. Vytantis]

Originally posted by Weaver:

A roadmap would just lead to the same people pitching a fit if any date was missed or moved. It's literally what they are doing now.

It's the same people who knew the game was going to be in Early Access weeks before it could be purchased, bought it knowing it was in Early Access, and then have thrown a fit because it's in Early Access.

from steam store:

Approximately how long will this game be in Early Access?
“We are hoping to be in early access for around 6-8 months, but this could change. We will leave Early Access when we are certain this is the best version of the game possible.”

versus

what the state of the game is rn

is the reason why people are concerned, upset, outraged, etc.
stop spreading strawman argument as "fact"

[Crix]

Give it a year at least before complaining about it's Early Access release. It's been getting some hefty updates since it's EA Release. So that should be a obvious indicator they're busy and seem to continue that stride.

[Duke H. Vytantis]

im gonna bump this up ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Zidawn]

We don't need an exact timeline of when everything will come out. If I was Endnight, I would just publish an update explaining what the next update is going to add every now and then. I played this with my family and friends a lot when it first dropped but when we saw how much content was getting added, we decided to wait until late this year to start our main server.

[DanteBrane]

I wouldn't mind if they would say what each update would mostly consist of. Kind like "Hey guys, the next update will be more focused on bugfixes/survival elements/building, etc.". Might help to temper some peoples expectations but also give a glimpse of what is coming next without setting themselves to a roadmap that they may fail to meet.

[Krieger]

..or even a road map of a road map.

[alan0n]

At this point even something ultra generic with quarterly goals would be nice.

[bradams]

No, a roadmap would do nothing. Look at Valheim as an example, they put out a roadmap saying the Hearth and Home update would be out in 3 months, mistlands would be out in 6, ocean would be completely reworked by 9, ect ect. They JUST released mistlands like a month ago, which is 2 full years after release. Took them 4x as long as they promised, while also doing a bunch of stuff that literally nobody cared about instead of working on said promised features. You could also look at Halo Infinites roadmap, where most of the things promised on it, like splitscreen co-op, just get outright canceled on a whim.

Roadmaps are nothing more than tools to slow down complainers, which in the SotF community, is a futile effort anyway, since most people here will open 15 threads a day talking about how trash the game is if they find a single strand of grass with a slightly funky texture. No reason for Endnight to waste time making a roadmap for a bunch of people who are going to complain the same amount whether theres a roadmap or not. Its purely wasted effort on their part.

[alan0n]

Originally posted by bradams:

No, a roadmap would do nothing. Look at Valheim as an example, they put out a roadmap saying the Hearth and Home update would be out in 3 months, mistlands would be out in 6, ocean would be completely reworked by 9, ect ect. They JUST released mistlands like a month ago, which is 2 full years after release. Took them 4x as long as they promised, while also doing a bunch of stuff that literally nobody cared about instead of working on said promised features. You could also look at Halo Infinites roadmap, where most of the things promised on it, like splitscreen co-op, just get outright canceled on a whim.

Roadmaps are nothing more than tools to slow down complainers, which in the SotF community, is a futile effort anyway, since most people here will open 15 threads a day talking about how trash the game is if they find a single strand of grass with a slightly funky texture. No reason for Endnight to waste time making a roadmap for a bunch of people who are going to complain the same amount whether theres a roadmap or not. Its purely wasted effort on their part.

You are off in the weeds man. If they release a roadmap and it doesn't even have anything about better survival mechanics Ill just leave. Not knowing what they have or dont have in store is the only thing keeping me around here.

If they just came out and said, no our game isnt going to be a survival horror game afterall... our game is going to be the island survival version of saints row... week 13 will have dildo-bats and gold chains... then Ill just bail. Im sure a lot of others would as well.

[Krieger]

Originally posted by alan0n:

Originally posted by bradams:

No, a roadmap would do nothing. Look at Valheim as an example, they put out a roadmap saying the Hearth and Home update would be out in 3 months, mistlands would be out in 6, ocean would be completely reworked by 9, ect ect. They JUST released mistlands like a month ago, which is 2 full years after release. Took them 4x as long as they promised, while also doing a bunch of stuff that literally nobody cared about instead of working on said promised features. You could also look at Halo Infinites roadmap, where most of the things promised on it, like splitscreen co-op, just get outright canceled on a whim.

Roadmaps are nothing more than tools to slow down complainers, which in the SotF community, is a futile effort anyway, since most people here will open 15 threads a day talking about how trash the game is if they find a single strand of grass with a slightly funky texture. No reason for Endnight to waste time making a roadmap for a bunch of people who are going to complain the same amount whether theres a roadmap or not. Its purely wasted effort on their part.

You are off in the weeds man. If they release a roadmap and it doesn't even have anything about better survival mechanics Ill just leave. Not knowing what they have or dont have in store is the only thing keeping me around here.

If they just came out and said, no our game isnt going to be a survival horror game afterall... our game is going to be the island survival version of saints row... week 13 will have dildo-bats and gold chains... then Ill just bail. Im sure a lot of others would as well.

That's why they said nothing on release, so they could 'steal' funds off the ppl that came from 1 expecting to see the forest part 2, survival horror and not some wtf 4yrs, cheap knock off multiplayer pointless shooter with tea bags, with no survival aspects what so ever.
i wouldn't have bought it.

wasted my money supporting their up and coming farce on day one.

don't need a road map to see a train wreck lol

yeah we ah, released early so we could get player opinion 'doesn't say a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ word at all since day one'

[bradams]

Originally posted by alan0n:

Originally posted by bradams:

No, a roadmap would do nothing. Look at Valheim as an example, they put out a roadmap saying the Hearth and Home update would be out in 3 months, mistlands would be out in 6, ocean would be completely reworked by 9, ect ect. They JUST released mistlands like a month ago, which is 2 full years after release. Took them 4x as long as they promised, while also doing a bunch of stuff that literally nobody cared about instead of working on said promised features. You could also look at Halo Infinites roadmap, where most of the things promised on it, like splitscreen co-op, just get outright canceled on a whim.

Roadmaps are nothing more than tools to slow down complainers, which in the SotF community, is a futile effort anyway, since most people here will open 15 threads a day talking about how trash the game is if they find a single strand of grass with a slightly funky texture. No reason for Endnight to waste time making a roadmap for a bunch of people who are going to complain the same amount whether theres a roadmap or not. Its purely wasted effort on their part.

You are off in the weeds man. If they release a roadmap and it doesn't even have anything about better survival mechanics Ill just leave. Not knowing what they have or dont have in store is the only thing keeping me around here.

If they just came out and said, no our game isnt going to be a survival horror game afterall... our game is going to be the island survival version of saints row... week 13 will have dildo-bats and gold chains... then Ill just bail. Im sure a lot of others would as well.

That's kinda my point in the first paragraph. Roadmaps mean nothing. Developers no longer stick to them, they just put them out to get people to shut up, which in this community, wouldn't matter anyway because nothing can stop the majority of this community from complaining.

Take the other person who responded to you as an example. This game is literally The Forest, but with guns, a thing that has been very clearly displayed in nearly every trailer released about this game since day 1, yet, they insist that because it is EXACTLY what it was advertised as, that it is a farce. Either they intentionally avoided every trailer before making their purchase, which was a dumb idea on their part, or they seen them and chose to ignore them for the sake of being upset and complaining when the game came out and it had exactly what the trailers advertised that it would have, aka, someone who's plan from the second they clicked "purchase" was to complain incessantly.

All that being said, I wouldn't get your hopes up about better survival mechanics even if they promised them in a roadmap. This game pretty much shares all the same mechanics as the first, except that hunger and thirst doesn't kill you currently. It probably will in time, but there is no reason to expect there to be any additional survival mechanics that aren't already there.

[Ataxio]

I prefer to be surprised. They could drop development right now and I wouldn't really care either, got my money / times worth from it. It's all just bonus stuff from this point forward.

[MadMax]

I think you are missing the point about Valheim and roadmaps. The roadmap was that we knew mistlands was coming and some other stuff was coming. If it was delayed a bit, so be it. With SotF, we haven't a clue even what major stuff is coming, yet alone a timeframe. In fact, if it is 6 - 8 months it would suggest it is going to be fairly minor to medium to meh in scope. Is that the reason we're not seeing a roadmap?