Do you think adding the Knight V was a mistake?

[Sea Prince Gillywix]

I don't have any issue sci fi elements. I love these in fact. However I think that out of all vehicles Endnight could have chosen to add to SOTF, a motorized unicycle was really silly. Here is some ideas for vehicles I alternatively would have preferred.

1. Bionic legs.

Perhaps they move a bit slower then a knight V but allow you to move around fairly fast without crashing. These legs also raise your height a bit allowing you to see greater distances.

2. A hoverbike

Also would allow you to move around with crashing, but perhaps these are harder to turn and control when not moving in a straight line.

3. Motorized Rollerskates

Can crash with these light the knight V, but are easier to turn and jump with. However slower.

For non Sci fi options:

1. Mechanical Wagon

Made out of logs, wire, skulls and bones. Can be driven around like a gold cart.

2. A simple bike

Self explanatory. Made with sticks, wire and bones.

3. Spring loaded glider.

Allows you to jump to launch yourself off the ground then glide to a location.

Just some ideas. What do you think?

[Debgobde]

A motorbike might've been nice. I didn't myself think the Knight V Sci-Fi or silly at all, I think it fits, but I understand it can feel a little strange. I wouldn't like more Sci-Fi elements in general, because thats not really the point of the game. It would feel off, in my opinion, despite the game being based in the future. I think it would shift the focus in an unnecessary way, from crafting and building bases out of logs to also having... Hoverbikes? Doesnt that feel to clash with the general feel of the game?

[Sea Prince Gillywix]

Originally posted by Debgobde:

A motorbike might've been nice. I didn't myself think the Knight V Sci-Fi or silly at all, I think it fits, but I understand it can feel a little strange. I wouldn't like more Sci-Fi elements in general, because thats not really the point of the game. It would feel off, in my opinion, despite the game being based in the future. I think it would shift the focus in an unnecessary way, from crafting and building bases out of logs to also having... Hoverbikes? Doesnt that feel to clash with the general feel of the game?

So long as they did not add motorbike crafting I think it would have been fine.

[Spaceman Spiff]

It should have been a hoverboard. We could all be the Silver Surfer.

[Howell-Barrex Soldier Ja'kala]

Motorized unicycles are real things that you can buy right now though.

[Sea Prince Gillywix]

Originally posted by Howell-Barrex Soldier Ja'kala:

Motorized unicycles are real things that you can buy right now though.

Perhaps yes, but I think a hoverbike, motorbike, bionic legs or even rollskates would have been a lot more interesting.

[BORG]

The Knight V was a bad idea and still is a bad idea. A quad bike with a trailer would have been a lot better. One wheel EVs are all the rave today and that's likely why they went with it. Personally I don't like it. I don't care for the golf carts either, but I guess they're there for good now. The current transportation options serve no value beyond riding from A to B. Even then, riding from A to B can be more of a PITA and waste of time than just running or zip line across the map. A quad with a trailer or storage box on the bag would at least give the vehicle more worth than just driving around and it would also give the player more of an incentive to use it. As things are now, I have no incentive to use either vehicles because everything they can do I can do faster other ways.

[grinsekeatzchen]

It's Like asking If it is a good Idea to sleep in a Tiger den. And then ask If it is better to sleep in a Tiger den, drenched in blood and Intestines.

The dirtbike, Most people asked for. That would be the right answer.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Originally posted by grinsekeatzchen:

The "right" answer for some, not for others.

[grinsekeatzchen]

Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff:

Originally posted by grinsekeatzchen:

The "right" answer for some, not for others.

Don't be a nitpicker over some sarcastic stuff you do yourself all the time.
And also, the dirtbike and Golfcard where the things which got asked the most, before they dropped the infamous knight V. So, at least correct me with "for most".

[ChronischeStaar]

No but a 'headlight' or 'frontlight' would be nice.

[Ataxio]

My opinion on the knight is that it struck a balance between them trolling the players, giving us options for faster travel but also making it so travel isint trivial.

You CAN master using it, but it'll always come with the risk of hitting objects. If you had super fast unabated travel across the island it would trivialize the size of the map and dramatically change the overall experince.

As for the above posted ideas, all of that's utterly too wacky and over the top. While an electric unicycle is pretty out there, it does manage to fit with Endnights style and the theme of the island being host to affluent inhabitants with eccentric hobbies and tastes.

Sure they could have put in a dirt bike. But that would be too effective. Evreyone would use it and you would feel safe on it. I sure as hell don't feel safe using the knight or golfcart.

[grinsekeatzchen]

Originally posted by Ataxio:

My opinion on the knight is that it struck a balance between them trolling the players, giving us options for faster travel but also making it so travel isint trivial.

I still Bet, they Had this ready from the start. But wanted to wait longer. Like in the First game. They added a bit funky stuff at the end.
But the people wanted transportation. So they thought they could please the crowd with this. So they could say, Look we listen :D.

[BORG]

Originally posted by Ataxio:

My opinion on the knight is that it struck a balance between them trolling the players, giving us options for faster travel but also making it so travel isint trivial.

You CAN master using it, but it'll always come with the risk of hitting objects. If you had super fast unabated travel across the island it would trivialize the size of the map and dramatically change the overall experince.

As for the above posted ideas, all of that's utterly too wacky and over the top. While an electric unicycle is pretty out there, it does manage to fit with Endnights style and the theme of the island being host to affluent inhabitants with eccentric hobbies and tastes.

Sure they could have put in a dirt bike. But that would be too effective. Evreyone would use it and you would feel safe on it. I sure as hell don't feel safe using the knight or golfcart.

A quad with a trailer is too wacky? So what does that make zip lines that can take us across the map faster than anything? Ridiculously wacky? How is a dirt bike wacky? The island was a recreational playground. There's no reason a dirt bike wouldn't fit. It doesn't have to be a KTM 450 SX-F.

[Ataxio]

Glossing over many key aspects.

You have to think like a developer. When you make something super accessible and useful evreyone will use it and it wrecks the flow of the game from there.

If you had access to a horse that kicked mutants heads in and traversed all terrain easily, would you not use it indefinitely? Esp if it trippled movement speed and you diddnt get knocked off. Now the entire map feels small and you never have to worry about threats while traveling.

[BORG]

Originally posted by Ataxio:

Glossing over many key aspects.

You have to think like a developer. When you make something super accessible and useful evreyone will use it and it wrecks the flow of the game from there.

If you had access to a horse that kicked mutants heads in and traversed all terrain easily, would you not use it indefinitely? Esp if it trippled movement speed and you diddnt get knocked off. Now the entire map feels small and you never have to worry about threats while traveling.

Pretty sure the point of a useful tool in a game is so that everyone will use it. One could debate that the Knight V wrecks the flow of the game because it allows the player to traverse the map too quickly. The same goes for zip lines. The same goes for the sled and the glider.

Considering most of the map is devoid of anything interesting above ground, it doesn't really matter if a player traverses the map more quickly. There's nothing to really see or experience other than a few POIs. The rest is copy and paste cannibal villages. A good developer thinks about and respects a players entertainment time and if traversing the map more quickly makes the players happier, then that is what a good game developer company should do. They can still be creative about it and make it interesting as well.