A Real Survival Mode / Hardcore mode

[Defiance]

Things that People would like of a "Real Survival mode"
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(1) When hungry or thirsty you take much more damage then now.
(2) You get hungry and thirsty faster then before.
(3) When cold you start to take real damage after a while and die if you don't get warm.
(4) You get infected when not bathing (like the first game)
(5) Poison damage hit's a bit harder (Does it even exist now ?)
(6) Dirty water that has to get cooked.

All this lead to a fight to have food in the base (Need for a base)
and a big base at that to store all food and water for the winter.
This also leads to the reason to hunt for the skin to stay warm and have fires in the base
to heat the house up.

[Ryzilynt]

You with the survival and the cold damage. Always with the cold damage.

I know Endnight doesn’t yet realize this but shortly after they patch cold damage into the game all of humanity will achieve enlightenment. There will be no more war , or hunger and atmospheric co2 levels will rapidly begin to decline.

And that is just the tip of the iceberg. You better do the right thing devs.

Get that cold damage in the game before it’s too late.

[Defiance]

Originally posted by Ryzilynt:

You with the survival and the cold damage. Always with the cold damage.

I know Endnight doesn’t yet realize this but shortly after they patch cold damage into the game all of humanity will achieve enlightenment. There will be no more war , or hunger and atmospheric co2 levels will rapidly begin to decline.

And that is just the tip of the iceberg. You better do the right thing devs.

Get that cold damage in the game before it’s too late.

Your free to your opinion. If you don't want it you can play on normal

[Duke H. Vytantis]

You've already made a topic like this, why keep making new ones? Could just keep it in 1 big topic for all the survival ideas

[Ryzilynt]

I think he’s trying to distill this thing down through iteration

[Nerevar]

currently this game simply isnt a survival game. its a average action game with meaningless building options and very little depth. even if you added survival mechanics that matter currently the game still wouldnt be a GOOD survival game because of all the other issues. for now its just flat out better to play other survival games to fullfill these needs therefore.

[Defiance]

Originally posted by Duke H. Vytantis:

You've already made a topic like this, why keep making new ones? Could just keep it in 1 big topic for all the survival ideas

Originally posted by Duke H. Vytantis:

You've already made a topic like this, why keep making new ones? Could just keep it in 1 big topic for all the survival ideas

I started making the big one and will keeping making how many I want on different topics. This is specific Cold damage it clear. I wrote on your post to.. I will not only write on your post or my first one, why should I ?

[Defiance]

Originally posted by Nerevar:

currently this game simply isnt a survival game. its a average action game with meaningless building options and very little depth. even if you added survival mechanics that matter currently the game still wouldnt be a GOOD survival game because of all the other issues. for now its just flat out better to play other survival games to fullfill these needs therefore.

Yes I agree to a degree, but I to try to get the word out there for people like you and me. It needs a lot of polish but it has a lot of Potential

[M.Red]

1 and 2
i dunno receiving more damage if hungry and/or thirsty would mean one is eating all the time - i dont think that this is a survival game mechanic
getting hungry and thirsty faster might keep the frustation level high

3
Cold damage seems a bit to harsh imho i personally would stick at my base in winter wich means i dont do much progress taking direct damage seems too punishing
taking sort of body damage might work - like loosing a toe by freezing which might reduce the overall healthpool a little or so
talking about cold damage throws me back to Final Fantasy

4
having a chance to get infected appears to be logic to me (like TF did)

5
poison damage might be a thing in the future, we can allready collect those berrys

6
water can be cooked but i suggest filtering it might be better
but currently there is no need for that imho there are better sources around

lets see in which direction the game developes

[Defiance]

Originally posted by M.Red:

1 and 2
i dunno receiving more damage if hungry and/or thirsty would mean one is eating all the time - i dont think that this is a survival game mechanic
getting hungry and thirsty faster might keep the frustation level high

3
Cold damage seems a bit to harsh imho i personally would stick at my base in winter wich means i dont do much progress taking direct damage seems too punishing
taking sort of body damage might work - like loosing a toe by freezing which might reduce the overall healthpool a little or so
talking about cold damage throws me back to Final Fantasy :lunar2019crylaughingpig:

4
having a chance to get infected appears to be logic to me (like TF did)

5
poison damage might be a thing in the future, we can allready collect those berrys

6
water can be cooked but i suggest filtering it might be better
but currently there is no need for that imho there are better sources around

lets see in which direction the game developes

Sure for people who want an easier experience they can always play on normal or the new "hard survival" ;)

[Kotzwurst]

Completely unrelated to the "harder survival" aspect of the difficulty, but they should really add back in that the game doesnt pause in inventory on Hard or Hard Survival. It baffles me that its so cheeseable.

[Defiance]

Originally posted by Playboy Bunny:

Completely unrelated to the "harder survival" aspect of the difficulty, but they should really add back in that the game doesnt pause in inventory on Hard or Hard Survival. It baffles me that its so cheeseable.

If you play the game in Multi player it won't pause. But yea the single player pause should be removed, I agree with you.. This new upcoming patch with be interesting

[ryannorgreeves]

Originally posted by Defiance:

Originally posted by M.Red:

1 and 2
i dunno receiving more damage if hungry and/or thirsty would mean one is eating all the time - i dont think that this is a survival game mechanic
getting hungry and thirsty faster might keep the frustation level high

3
Cold damage seems a bit to harsh imho i personally would stick at my base in winter wich means i dont do much progress taking direct damage seems too punishing
taking sort of body damage might work - like loosing a toe by freezing which might reduce the overall healthpool a little or so
talking about cold damage throws me back to Final Fantasy :lunar2019crylaughingpig:

4
having a chance to get infected appears to be logic to me (like TF did)

5
poison damage might be a thing in the future, we can allready collect those berrys

6
water can be cooked but i suggest filtering it might be better
but currently there is no need for that imho there are better sources around

lets see in which direction the game developes

Sure for people who want an easier experience they can always play on normal or the new "hard survival" ;)

This is basically discarding his views. For example: What are your thoughts on cooking vs filtering water? - You're basically saying "All people who don't share my views are not worth talking to.. go play easy as I'm the realest survival guy that ever survived reality."

Also, this is looking at it from the standpoint that when they said they added a "hard survival mode" that the hard survival mode and all hard survival updates are done. So to cope with this, you're indicating a "hard hard survival" mode yet needs to be implemented.

I'm happy to engage on multiple threads about a variety of aspects of this game, several of which are survival related, but the above is a bit disrespectful to someone who took the time to provide some genuine feedback for this discussion.

[Altor]

Originally posted by Defiance:

Things that People would like of a "Real Survival mode"
-------------------------------------------------------------
(1) When hungry or thirsty you take much more damage then now.
(3) When cold you start to take real damage after a while and die if you don't get warm.

You have to take a look what happens when you are thirsty, hungry or getting cold in reality. You are loosing hit points and die suddenly? Running as fast as before and then fall down ? When you are thirsty, hungry or getting cold you should loose your energy. That you cannot move fast anymore and you loose your power. Loosing just hit points and die is stupid. But you don' t need to post such things in that forum. SOTF is not a survival game. It is a circus game for fun. They will never be able to implement such things in this game.

[Defiance]

Originally posted by Altor:

Originally posted by Defiance:

Things that People would like of a "Real Survival mode"
-------------------------------------------------------------
(1) When hungry or thirsty you take much more damage then now.
(3) When cold you start to take real damage after a while and die if you don't get warm.

You have to take a look what happens when you are thirsty, hungry or getting cold in reality. You are loosing hit points and die suddenly? Running as fast as before and then fall down ? When you are thirsty, hungry or getting cold you should loose your energy. That you cannot move fast anymore and you loose your power. Loosing just hit points and die is stupid. But you don' t need to post such things in that forum. SOTF is not a survival game. It is a circus game for fun. They will never be able to implement such things in this game.

For people who played the first game now all about the Die of hunger and thirst, cold damage. So that's what I mean.. Yea but as you said the game sure is a circus freak right now hehe

[Defiance]

Originally posted by ryannorgreeves:

Originally posted by Defiance:

Sure for people who want an easier experience they can always play on normal or the new "hard survival" ;)

This is basically discarding his views. For example: What are your thoughts on cooking vs filtering water? - You're basically saying "All people who don't share my views are not worth talking to.. go play easy as I'm the realest survival guy that ever survived reality."

Also, this is looking at it from the standpoint that when they said they added a "hard survival mode" that the hard survival mode and all hard survival updates are done. So to cope with this, you're indicating a "hard hard survival" mode yet needs to be implemented.

I'm happy to engage on multiple threads about a variety of aspects of this game, several of which are survival related, but the above is a bit disrespectful to someone who took the time to provide some genuine feedback for this discussion.

Have you nothing better to do than to comment on everything you think I do wrong. If you don't agree with me than don't.. All people are free to their opinions. And as the thread is about cold damage than I disagree as a think that lacking the Real cold damage is a mistake, and for people who don't like cold damage can play on an easier level just as I wrote. you seem to misunderstand me all the time =)