4070 FE is only reporting 100watts GPU load when ingame

[w00kie]

title, my new 4070 is only drawing 100watts with DLSS @2560x1080 on mostly ultra settings with 100FPS limit. Only problem, card won't reach anywhere near 100FPS, but stick aroung 70 FPS with lows in the 20s. I didn't have this issue before the latest patch.

[gatsu]

Maybe you updated Nvidia drivers and in defaulted to Power Managment - Normal instead of - Prefer maximum performance?

[w00kie]

I am on 531.61, the driver the card released with nearly 3 weeks ago and did a fresh DDU install when I installed the card. The card is sitting on NORMAL power mode as that is what NVIDIA has intended and is the modus operandi for daily use. I'm not asking for general NVIDIA support here. I just wanted to state my experience that SOTF does appear not fully utilize such cards after the latest update. The card ran pegged at ~ 193watts before.

[Pisaro]

Originally posted by w00kie:

I am on 531.61, the driver the card released with nearly 3 weeks ago and did a fresh DDU install when I installed the card. The card is sitting on NORMAL power mode as that is what NVIDIA has intended and is the modus operandi for daily use. I'm not asking for general NVIDIA support here. I just wanted to state my experience that SOTF does appear not fully utilize such cards after the latest update. The card ran pegged at ~ 193watts before.

That game needs heavy cpu Power, that is totally stupid. You would get youre 4070 near 100% gpu load.

[Deltafox]

Set all the graphics settings to ultra-low and the game will still run like hot garbage because it's h horribly optimized you may as well be trying to emulate a ps4 game

[Ryzilynt]

Guess what percentage of Steam users have a 4070 or better.

https://tech4gamers.com/steam-users-rtx-40-series/#:~:text=Among%20the%20three%2C%20the%20GeForce,%25%20and%200.18%25%2C%20respectively.

[drohr]

runs FINE on my 3060.

[alfaunicorn81]

As others would type: This game is Early Access. Consider it like an open beta until final optimization is done. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_access

[gatsu]

Something is wrong then. I run this game on 3080. My max power draw is around 360W on this GPU. On 3440*1440 res, all max and DLSS Quality I have around 66 - 90 fps (90 set as max) and power draw around 90% - 330W on average.
Wonder what are your temps CPU usage and what PSU are you packing.

[w00kie]

Originally posted by gatsu:

Something is wrong then. I run this game on 3080. My max power draw is around 360W on this GPU. On 3440*1440 res, all max and DLSS Quality I have around 66 - 90 fps (90 set as max) and power draw around 90% - 330W on average.
Wonder what are your temps CPU usage and what PSU are you packing.

I should have mentioned I had a 2070 (non super) before the upgrade to 4070 and did not experience that kind of behavoir there, 2070 was always fully utilized.

Rest of the setup, as you asked:
Ryzen 9 5900x at a pbo curve of -12 and high power limits
32GB DDR4-3200 RAM at 16-18-18-36 CR1 (2x16GB dual rank)
Gigabyte Aorus Master 570x Rev 1.2 on bios F37b (AGESA 1.2.0.7)
PSU is a Seasonic Focus PX-650 (650watts 80+ PLATINUM)
NVIDIA 4070 FE on release VBIOS 95.04.49.00.03 with NVIDIAs included original 12VHPW Dual adapter
Windows 10 prof 21H2 on a Samsung SSD 970 pro 512 GB
Steam and SOTF on a Samsung SSD 970 evo 2TB

CPU never exceeds 72°C outside of long running OCCT Benches, while CPU package power can reach 130watts

4070 stays under 60% load and under 63°C in this 100watt dilema. Outside of SOTF in other games it reaches full power (193 to 205watts).

I've toyed around with different DLSS Settings but balanced and performance run very similar here.

Originally posted by drohr:

runs FINE on my 3060.

yep, my issue is on a 4070 though. ran fine on my old 2070 too...

Originally posted by alfaunicorn81:

As others would type: This game is Early Access. Consider it like an open beta until final optimization is done. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_access

Thank you, but I am quite aware of that. Shall I then not mention when something is behaving weird so that there is a chance it might get fixed in the future? Or rather, maybe I did something wrong and it is based on my settings, shall I not ask why I got weird behavior?

[Ataxio]

That PSU is a little on the low side for all that horsepower your pulling.

Doubt it's the issue per se, but you don't want to be operating at or near the limit.

[w00kie]

Originally posted by Ataxio:

That PSU is a little on the low side for all that horsepower your pulling.

Doubt it's the issue per se, but you don't want to be operating at or near the limit.

the system is not new, 4070 only draws at a max 25 watts more than the 2070 that I ran for the last 2 years without problem. Also the problem only exists in this particular game.

[Ryzilynt]

Do you have a limit set at application level in nvidia control panel ?

[w00kie]

Originally posted by Ryzilynt:

Do you have a limit set at application level in nvidia control panel ?

nope, but I'm toying around with NVIDIA settings right now.

[Ataxio]

Originally posted by w00kie:

Originally posted by Ataxio:

That PSU is a little on the low side for all that horsepower your pulling.

Doubt it's the issue per se, but you don't want to be operating at or near the limit.

the system is not new, 4070 only draws at a max 25 watts more than the 2070 that I ran for the last 2 years without problem. Also the problem only exists in this particular game.

It's not a detrimental problem per se, rather one of efficiency. There is a curve of power consumption where a PSU operates best at. Typically this is between 60 to 80% of its output. Exceeding that or consistantly operating beyond that curve tends to detract from the life of the PSU and puts more stress on it.

[w00kie]

Originally posted by Ataxio:

It's not a detrimental problem per se, rather one of efficiency. There is a curve of power consumption where a PSU operates best at. Typically this is between 60 to 80% of its output. Exceeding that or consistantly operating beyond that curve tends to detract from the life of the PSU and puts more stress on it.

On the other side 80+ efficiency is only rated above 10% total power, so 65 watts in my case. The PSU has a 10 year warrantly where I'm at, so I don't care at all about PSU lifetime but about power efficiency.
With the cost of the power wasted by a 850 watt psu running in an inefficient state at idle for years I can pretty much pay for a better psu.

back to topic, I managed to get the card up to 132 watts in gsync compatible mode, full screen, capped at my refreshrate, with DLSS completely OFF and MSAA on
65% TDP

I give up at this point. I looks allright, runs well enough now and uses less power than it is allowed to.