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Also define what kind of survival aspects you are looking for. Because there is very basic things there for both games; starvation and dehydration. But these 2 things are disabled by default for the current difficulties so you have to toggle them in custom settings. Besides that, there isn't really any item management either. It's probably not what you are looking for in terms of survival. If you are looking for games where you have to nurse a sprained limb or an infection for a week and things of this nature, this is the wrong game. While I do want harder settings for this game, it's more of lax survival game.