Is this better then the first game?

[CharlieSnows]

i been thinking of buying this game but what do you think? should i give it a try or keep on vibing with the first forest?

[XYX]

Originally posted by /\/\utt0:

It's still missing a complete and cohesive story. It's there in bits and pieces. But from a gameplay perspective it completely outshines the original in every way. It also has a significantly larger map.

I did not play the first game. I watched it though from its inception. I almost 'pulled the trigger' and bought it on sale so many farkin times, I dont even remember how many. You know why I didnt do it? 7 Days to Die did what they were doing better. Why would I buy the same game? 4 posts up make this game unique. What said that is.

[Ataxio]

7 days to die and both of endnights games are so un alike and different I cannot fathom even a little how that comparison was ever made.

[XYX]

Originally posted by Ataxio:

7 days to die and both of endnights games are so un alike and different I cannot fathom even a little how that comparison was ever made.

Well, I guess we'll have to disagree then.

[Ataxio]

One is a voxel game. The other is not. That alone is a MASSIVE difference.

Ones focus is building and crafting. The Forest focus is on a stranger things spooky narrative and only lightly touches on survival, building or crafting.

One has zombies, the other has mutants and cannibals. Very different entities.

7d2d you can easily burn thousands of hours. The Forest you might get 50 to 100 hours tops on average.

It's okay to say you prefer 7d2d or like it better. But saying they are similer or the same is nearly an outright fabrication to put it bluntly.

[XYX]

Originally posted by Ataxio:

One is a voxel game. The other is not. That alone is a MASSIVE difference.

Ones focus is building and crafting. The Forest focus is on a stranger things spooky narrative and only lightly touches on survival, building or crafting.

One has zombies, the other has mutants and cannibals. Very different entities.

7d2d you can easily burn thousands of hours. The Forest you might get 50 to 100 hours tops on average.

It's okay to say you prefer 7d2d or like it better. But saying they are similer or the same is nearly an outright fabrication to put it bluntly.

You made 5 points. Please allow me to respond to each.
First point: I agree.

Second point:To date the story isnt there, so I judge it as is. It is like 7D2D and falls short.

3rd point: They blend in the same for me unles the story pulls me away enough to believe there is a difference.

4th point: I can easily burn a lot of hours on a well thought out game. Beyonf that, I dont get what you're saying.

5th point: My preference is a good game. I play so many different games, and love the good as do we all. I do promise that when my hours played go over 100, the games were all well thought out, expertly executed, and the devs loved what they were doing. It really shows.

[Ataxio]

The sad truth is 7d2d has been growing more unfun with each update. Typically we host a server for a couple of months at a time but our entire group is overwhelming ambivalent for a21. So many changes have walked back the title from what it was sold as, it's just not the same in a very unfun way.

But fun of course is subjective.

[XYX]

Originally posted by Ataxio:

The sad truth is 7d2d has been growing more unfun with each update. Typically we host a server for a couple of months at a time but our entire group is overwhelming ambivalent for a21. So many changes have walked back the title from what it was sold as, it's just not the same in a very unfun way.

But fun of course is subjective.

I find that happens a lot in multiplayer games. That is why I avoid them. Let's take Starraft 2 from the Blizzard compound as an example. The game was fun in the diversity of units. What happened? Players started using exploits so much that all the diversity went away. Every unit had an equal match to appease all factions, so every race played the same. Boring!

[StopItStepBro]

Currently, eh, it's debatable but the bones of this game have SO much more potential than the first game, I think the final product will be much better.

[Stoned Ape]

Not as it stands now but its still has the core experience, just not finished.

[XYX]

Id say say this game has a heck of a good start. If I can promise you 20 hours of entertainment (and I can), then ask yourself what you spent last weekend? This game will be far less hours for Euros/dollars spent. The sales are high enough to motivate the devs into making this game a lot more than it is. A good game starts like this one. The likely hood of this game getting 50% better at least is high. The more of us that buy in now, the more the devs and investors will buy in.

We, the buyers, are the ones that will sell this game, so get this one. It has good legs/bones. You can improve your 20 hours into a rip off in your favor getting this game now, but I dont doubt you get simple math, just dont let the good games go is all im saying.

[Ryzilynt]

Originally posted by Ataxio:

Winter sucks. A lot.

Hang on now. Defiance is going to have some problems with this assessment. He is unable to discern between summer and winter currently ...

[XYX]

Originally posted by Ryzilynt:

Originally posted by Ataxio:

Winter sucks. A lot.

Hang on now. Defiance is going to have some problems with this assessment. He is unable to discern between summer and winter currently ...

Yeah. I expect winter to get a big update sooner that later. As of now, I can run around naked and dying of hunger an thirst in winter. I expect that to change with more content.

[ryannorgreeves]

This is kind of like asking which is better, a fully cooked meal that you just eat, or being able to stand in the kitchen and munch on things while the cook is making your meal.

[XYX]

Originally posted by ryannorgreeves:

This is kind of like asking which is better, a fully cooked meal that you just eat, or being able to stand in the kitchen and munch on things while the cook is making your meal.

The non existent cook is in an underground bunker that you have to find and his/her food is interesting but you dont really need it... yet. Hell, you dont even have to worry about cooking it yet. I feel like Gollum chewing it up. The mutant theme sure, but im pretty sure that was not the plan.

[Nerevar]

Originally posted by Disco Elysium:

Id say say this game has a heck of a good start. If I can promise you 20 hours of entertainment (and I can), then ask yourself what you spent last weekend? This game will be far less hours for Euros/dollars spent. The sales are high enough to motivate the devs into making this game a lot more than it is. A good game starts like this one. The likely hood of this game getting 50% better at least is high. The more of us that buy in now, the more the devs and investors will buy in.

We, the buyers, are the ones that will sell this game, so get this one. It has good legs/bones. You can improve your 20 hours into a rip off in your favor getting this game now, but I dont doubt you get simple math, just dont let the good games go is all im saying.

seriously. Shill harder next time. this isnt a GOOD GAME right now and it CERTAINLY didnt have a good start. most lies i read in awhile.

the game is currently worse than the first game in nearly every aspect ASIDE graphics (which to be real isnt a suprise given the year they got released in each)

and this game needs more than a 50% improvement to surpass the first game. that is for certain. but given the course the updates took till now its not looking good for this game to manage to turn around anymore.