The zipline gun cave...

[Hexzyti]

Jesus ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ christ man. I can understand wanting to make the cave scary, but the amount of enemies is downright annoying. The cave drains so many resources for such a basic necessary item. When I first entered I though tit was an endgame cave and avoided it, only to find I had to go through in order to progress to the shovel cave. Really feel like they went overboard with this cave.

[kaumell]

Originally posted by dnrob7:

I found it again. The exit to the rope gun cave is here:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946065734

Go in this way^
Kill 2 mutants, climb up grab it, and out. all good.

Deal with 2 nasties..
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946074977

Wall looks vertical but you can jump up it with a bit of effort
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946074987

Get the loot
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946075004

And back out the way you came in.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946076434

Don't use the rope gun to get down either. just slide down the rocks.

Absolutely brilliant. I had failed going through the front door about 234 times. This nailed it. Thanks!

[Cryptic Draugr]

Originally posted by Hexzyti:

Originally posted by Vedren:

So this wasn't fixed like they said in the patch notes lol. Before I bought the game I watched some streams and with 4 or 5 people in a cave they only got 4 or 5 enemies, I go in solo and get 30 lol.

I walked in and three of the finger ♥♥♥♥♥ rammed my ass from every direction 💀

pro tip, you can stealth your way past the fingers, They are blind and go based off sound. the humanoid mutants however you gotta kill with the twins and babies. pretty sure you can throw pebbles to try and lure them away from where you need to go, But i go through the cave all the time and can get through without killing a single finger

[Citizen10Bears]

I was feeling the same frustration, but I found that the cave seems to be in zones and enemies don't travel between them. So find an empty zone and put up a tent and save the game, then pick up your tent and run on to the next quiet zone. I may have this totally wrong, but it seemed to work for me.

[Don Cool]

I just started a new game, got the flashlight ... made a spear .... and went to get the rope gun, easy peasy. I did sneak past one area ... just to see if I could, needed the armour though so I killed the rest.

[WhoopinOnYou]

The cave mutants are definitely too much considering that you don't really have any good weapons (except for grenades, molotovs, and bombs) at that point. And when you do get the good weapons, you've already gotten through all the difficult stuff and don't need them as much.

They need to make it tough to get the good weapons, I get that. But, they should give you something good earlier to make it easier to make your way through the those caves, instead of just forcing you to sprint through like most people do. I think the crossbow would be a good early item they should allow you to find without needing tools to get it. It's a great stealthy weapon that will help you snipe mutants without drawing too much attention. You can sneak around with this weapon and methodically take everything out. I think something like this should definitely be made available early to help you progress through the caves.

[DanteBrane]

I tried going into these caves on my first save and realized I was completely unprepared because of all the enemies down there, much more crowded than in the first game. But I kinda played like an idiot my first time because I tried tinkering with the new building system instead of scavenging so I got my ass whooped a lot.

My next and current save, I made sure to scavenge. You find a decent amount of ammo for the pistol, grenades, supplies to make timed explosives, and booze for molotovs on the surface. Spears are also handy for fingers because you can stab their legs and stun them, then switch to an axe and charge attack them 2-3 times. The blind mutants die in a single head shot, plenty of bombs to blow them up if they group up. Might just have to prepare yourself more.

But maybe there could be some more balancing. I saw someone say that the game seems front loaded and I can agree. Caves are packed with enemies and guard the shovel. But then you use the shovel to get to powerful weapons but most of the bunkers are vacant aside from a handful of enemies. Doesn't really make sense. There's no reason to go back into these caves with your new found weapons and tools.

[ps3wolvrine14]

Originally posted by Humpenstilzchen:

Originally posted by oldlamehand:

What's most absurd. The caves are the hardest locations in the game, but you get most of the good weapons after you get the shovel, which means that you have to get through three caves to get the weapons you need to defeat the enemies in those caves.

I thought the same. It is weird that all the fun stuff is gated behind the shovel. At least the compound bow should be findable without the shovel to balance the progression.

Yup. By the time i had the bow and crossbow, they were useless because of the shotgun.

[craigroaring]

Originally posted by dnrob7:

I found it again. The exit to the rope gun cave is here:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946065734

Go in this way^
Kill 2 mutants, climb up grab it, and out. all good.

Deal with 2 nasties..
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946074977

Wall looks vertical but you can jump up it with a bit of effort
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946074987

Get the loot
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946075004

And back out the way you came in.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946076434

Don't use the rope gun to get down either. just slide down the rocks.

You want to show how to get up the wall. I'm having no luck.

[dnrob7]

Originally posted by craigroaring:

Originally posted by dnrob7:

I found it again. The exit to the rope gun cave is here:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946065734

Go in this way^
Kill 2 mutants, climb up grab it, and out. all good.

Deal with 2 nasties..
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946074977

Wall looks vertical but you can jump up it with a bit of effort
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946074987

Get the loot
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946075004

And back out the way you came in.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946076434

Don't use the rope gun to get down either. just slide down the rocks.

You want to show how to get up the wall. I'm having no luck.

I've never done any vid cap so might be difficult.. I'll try with screens but.. Lets see

[Crunchmeister]

Originally posted by Hellsmoke77:

Crosses only work on one enemy, demons. They don't work on mutants.

^^^
This. Using the cross against regular mutants is very bad advice.

[Omence072]

Some of the caves you can lead the enemies to water and they will drown lol.

[Nani Sore]

Yea, when I first went into these caves I tried to kill everything with my torch and quickly changed tactics to just running past everything.

I basically ran through every cave required to get the shovel and I cannot imagine having killed the masses of enemies I was running past without any significant weaponry.

[dnrob7]

Ok. Best I can do


https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946981513
Follow the crack. (as men do)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946980888
Climb up as far as it will take you..

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2946980900
Once you stop going up hug the left side of it.. Keep jumping up and sliding to the left as you go forward and you should find the spot.
I think it might even be that bit of rock just left of the arrow that you can jump on and that's it, rest is easy.

[kraidstar]

Make sure to grab the machete too. Very solid weapon against the pale skinny mutants. You can get it on the north beach, on the other side of the river from the shovel cave. It's stuck into a red inflatable raft.

Grenades are fantastic. Bombs are good too. The pistol is a nice emergency-situation weapon.

Also pretty easy to drown enemies, just lure them in to where it's a little too deep.

The bow is also effective, provided you use a flare or other light source. Try to get the enemy into a bottleneck situation and stagger them with repeated arrows. And skinny mutants will die with a single headshot. It's a real shame there are no fire or poison arrows though.

[Humpenstilzchen]

Went through it again at day 88. It was completely insane. They need to balance this holy moly..