Since it is possible to save/load to get full ammo, etc.

[Raikira]

If this is per design, why even have a limit at all? For example, why only receive a small amount of bullets at a time, why not increase it to 50? 100?

[Vox]

Just... don't save scum for a bunch of ammo?

[Hellsmoke]

Speaking of ammo, it's completely ridiculous to nerf the shotgun the way they did. If you don't sit there and load in a hundred times, the amount of ammo you are getting is laughable. Not to mention you can't hold a lot, I think the limit fir the shotgun is 20? I managed to reach that limit in my first game at around day 100 because I never used it.

If people save and continuously load in to cheat, let them. That's their game and it's predominantly a single player game. If someone wants to cheat they'll do it regardless, there is no anti cheat here as far as I know. The only thing this nerf did was nerf out the fun.

[Andy Mil]

hey do u do. it is what u want to save scum for farmin ammo and they allow it cuz it is ur way of fun

[IvoryTemplar]

Originally posted by Raikira:

If this is per design, why even have a limit at all? For example, why only receive a small amount of bullets at a time, why not increase it to 50? 100?

Why not get one of the mods out there to console command in all the ammo you want instead of save scumming? It's faster and just as legit.

[Roy_XIII]

Because guns aren't really supposed to be in a survival game like this , when the first preview of this game came out a year or so ago people were not happy about guns even being in the game ..... they immediately stated Ammo would be scarse , yes you can save and reload but you will still only find a couple bullets, otherwise they might aswel just turn this game into a shooter

Your supposed to save your ammo for the mutants and dangerous moments (cannibal raids)

There's a reason they built a Strength mechanic that allows you to increase your MELEE DAMAGE by swinging weapons and cutting down trees and what not

Melee combat is the core of this game , always has been and always will be lol

[Lord Skarra]

Originally posted by Hellsmoke77:

Speaking of ammo, it's completely ridiculous to nerf the shotgun the way they did. If you don't sit there and load in a hundred times, the amount of ammo you are getting is laughable. Not to mention you can't hold a lot, I think the limit fir the shotgun is 20? I managed to reach that limit in my first game at around day 100 because I never used it.

If people save and continuously load in to cheat, let them. That's their game and it's predominantly a single player game. If someone wants to cheat they'll do it regardless, there is no anti cheat here as far as I know. The only thing this nerf did was nerf out the fun.

I'm with this post... i'm not going to lie, me and my friends had more fun throwing stuff at each other's faces by saving/loading/host thing... then we did trying to grab the items.

Making the game nerfed... is a bad idea... no offence, but it ruins the fun of the game. especially on multiplayer...

HERE TAKE THESE THOUSAND ROCKS.

Now give me 2k?!

Rocks Exploding all over the place... XD

[Andy Mil]

didnt Strength only buff health and stamina?? I not sure yet that it also buff melee

[Hellsmoke]

Originally posted by Mil:

hey do u do. it is what u want to save scum for farmin ammo and they allow it cuz it is ur way of fun

I wouldn't even call it save scumming, it's an intended game design. In the last game, suitcases used to repawn upon loading in, eventually they stop them from dong so. If they wanted to stop players from doing this, they could easily make the suitcases that drop ammo not respawn.

Thing is why? Why put in all that work to give us guns when they are going to end up being exclusive to Virginia because you've looted all the ammo on the island?

Not to mention there are various cheats out there already so if people want to cheat they will do so one way or another, you can't beat the internet. Many have tried, none have succeeded. Seeing as to how this is about as far from a competitive online game as you're going to get, I don't see any point in stopping people from having fun.

I agree with the op, raise the amount of ammo people can hold s they don't feel the need to save scum because the underlying goal of any game is fun. Loading the game 20 times can't be fun.

[Roy_XIII]

Originally posted by Mil:

didnt Strength only buff health and stamina?? I not sure yet that it also buff melee

in the first game Strenght increases your damage with melee weapon so yea im assuming they did this for the second game too , considering they took pretty much all the mechanics from the first game

[Roy_XIII]

Originally posted by Mil:

didnt Strength only buff health and stamina?? I not sure yet that it also buff melee

Your stamina increased by running and swimming , not from strength ;)

Strength increased your melee damage (it also makes cutting trees abit faster by a couple swings)

[Hellsmoke]

Originally posted by Lord Skarra:

HERE TAKE THESE THOUSAND ROCKS.

Now give me 2k?!

Rocks Exploding all over the place... XD

I noticed this as well, there's like 6 rocks on each square meter, absolutely ridiculous. it makes it really hard to pick up what you want, you constantly have a rock in your hand.

These kind of things just leave me shaking my head. I wish they would at least add an option to disable those symbols above items so we don't have 10 on our screen at any given time due to the whole island being full of little rocks.

Also, nobody is using these rocks lol. The slingshot aim is so far off nobody uses it, it does no damage to enemies at all, I assume it's for small animals. Everyone is printing arrows as well, nobody uses stone arrows. There's no need for these rocks at all.

[Roy_XIII]

Originally posted by Hellsmoke77:

Originally posted by Lord Skarra:

HERE TAKE THESE THOUSAND ROCKS.

Now give me 2k?!

Rocks Exploding all over the place... XD

I noticed this as well, there's like 6 rocks on each square meter, absolutely ridiculous. it makes it really hard to pick up what you want, you constantly have a rock in your hand.

These kind of things just leave me shaking my head. I wish they would at least add an option to disable those symbols above items so we don't have 10 on our screen at any given time due to the whole island being full of little rocks.

To be honest we are supposed to be able to build with Rocks like in the first game, they already confirmed this is gonna be implemented, just no clue why it hasnt been yet

Thats the reason there's somany rocks , just like in the first game they are everywhere

But yeah thats the reason you get somany big rocks , we are supposed to be buildign with them :)

[Hellsmoke]

Originally posted by Roy_XIII:

To be honest we are supposed to be able to build with Rocks like in the first game, they already confirmed this is gonna be implemented, just no clue why it hasnt been yet

Thats the reason there's somany rocks , just like in the first game they are everywhere

But yeah thats the reason you get somany big rocks , we are supposed to be buildign with them :)

I'm talking about the small rocks, the big ones are okay. I was going to make a screenshot and make a post on it, there's like 6 or 7 on your screen at any given time, it's ridiculous.

[Roy_XIII]

Originally posted by Hellsmoke77:

Originally posted by Roy_XIII:

To be honest we are supposed to be able to build with Rocks like in the first game, they already confirmed this is gonna be implemented, just no clue why it hasnt been yet

Thats the reason there's somany rocks , just like in the first game they are everywhere

But yeah thats the reason you get somany big rocks , we are supposed to be buildign with them :)

I'm talking about the small rocks, the big ones are okay.

ah my bad , but im guessing the abundance in small rocks is because of their use in creating arrows, you need like 4 rocks if im not mistaken for a stack of arrows, i know they are terrible arrows but they are supposed to be the ones you use alot untill you get the carbon or 3d printed ones? my guess is thats the reason ? who knows lol

[Altor]

Originally posted by Raikira:

If this is per design, why even have a limit at all? For example, why only receive a small amount of bullets at a time, why not increase it to 50? 100?

What kind of limit you mean? Carrying or respawning?