Whats wrong with Kelvin?

[Buckshot]

I swear that dude is getting lazier by the in-game day. It is currently winter in my savegame. Outdoor fires do not last long. My fire went out and it was snowing and I could not find my firepit under the snow, so I asked Kelvin to make a new fire. He refused to do it. I then had to create my own fire. Later the same in-game day, I asked Kelvin to find longs and put them in the holder. Again he refused. All day long Kelvin did nothing. Its funny that he never refuses when you tell him to take a break.

[AnInfiniteArc]

If you don't give him enough breaks he becomes belligerent.

[Andi]

Also, don't know if you're aware, but fires last a lot longer by using firewood.

[Buckshot]

Originally posted by AnInfiniteArc:

If you don't give him enough breaks he becomes belligerent.

All in-game day he was just sitting and doing nothing. I figured it wasnt too much to ask if he fetches a couple logs for me....but nooooo. Then as it was getting dark, he decided to go looking for logs. He brought me one log and since I didnt want him working throughout the night, I once again told him to take a break. I hope tomorrow (in-game day) he will be fully rested so I can get some work out of him.

[Don Cool]

Kelvin can spot enemies we can´t, those pesky little monkeys in the bushes, sometimes they don´t come out of their bushes. If one such is around Kelvin will refuse to do anything. Kelvin will not always start pointing at the enemy, sometimes he will just keep his distance and hide in a river or ... somewhere else.

Kelvin will stop working if pathing is bugged, meaning he can´t find a way. In my base I had to remove two defensive beams in order for him to resume working, he can´t cross bridges or use stairs. (seen him do it on rare occasions).

He also has a max work radius, if no logs are found he won´t fetch any. In this regard, Kelvin will sometimes chop a tree for logs without the "clear" order, this however doesn´t seem working properly. You need to use the "clear" order and when he has chopped enough you can tell him to haul.

The safest way to tell whether his AI is working is to tell him to fish, if he brings a fish he is fine.

[Buckshot]

Originally posted by Andi:

Also, don't know if you're aware, but fires last a lot longer by using firewood.

Huh? Are you saying we can put sticks and logs into the fire?

[RainmakerLTU]

Originally posted by Buckshot:

so I asked Kelvin to make a new fire. He refused to do it.

This is because he scanned the area around and could not find a stick for the fire.

Originally posted by Buckshot:

I asked Kelvin to find longs and put them in the holder. Again he refused.

The same story. if you cut down all trees around, he can't find them and won't do it. To make this work, you need build new holders closer to growing trees, for him to cut them and store. Or deliver logs into pile yourself close to holders, so he can put them into storage.
Sometimes his scan range is annoying, but sometimes it helps against unsactioned tree cutting with tree houses - just take him further from your tree houses and he can clear 20 meters, without fear he will knock your house down.
Devs said about more communication lines coming for Kelvin, so it should get better.
Also, as here people noted correct - he is not a robot, he needs breaks. He can take short breaks while working, But also you should allow him to take a break by specific command time from time - he will come to you himself when he will be dying out of boredom. Granted he won't stuck somewhere along the way.

[Andi]

Originally posted by Buckshot:

Originally posted by Andi:

Also, don't know if you're aware, but fires last a lot longer by using firewood.

Huh? Are you saying we can put sticks and logs into the fire?

you can cut quarter logs into firewood wich burns for ages.

[RainmakerLTU]

Originally posted by Buckshot:

Originally posted by Andi:

Also, don't know if you're aware, but fires last a lot longer by using firewood.

Huh? Are you saying we can put sticks and logs into the fire?

You can cut log into 4 pieces. Then take one of them and cut in half - this is firewood now. While holding it in hand, approach firepit and 2 dotted lines appear in it asking to put in the firewood. Also firewood can be put on ground for storage. Only older stacks, seems stop accepting new pieces pretty soon, seems bug to me.

[Buckshot]

Originally posted by RainmakerLTU:

Originally posted by Buckshot:

so I asked Kelvin to make a new fire. He refused to do it.

This is because he scanned the area around and could not find a stick for the fire.

Originally posted by Buckshot:

I asked Kelvin to find longs and put them in the holder. Again he refused.

The same story. if you cut down all trees around, he can't find them and won't do it. To make this work, you need build new holders closer to growing trees, for him to cut them and store. Or deliver logs into pile yourself close to holders, so he can put them into storage.
Sometimes his scan range is annoying, but sometimes it helps against unsactioned tree cutting with tree houses - just take him further from your tree houses and he can clear 20 meters, without fear he will knock your house down.
Devs said about more communication lines coming for Kelvin, so it should get better.
Also, as here people noted correct - he is not a robot, he needs breaks. He can take short breaks while working, But also you should allow him to take a break by specific command time from time - he will come to you himself when he will be dying out of boredom. Granted he won't stuck somewhere along the way.:lunar2019grinningpig:

Yes, I watch Kelvins behavior pretty close as I am going about my day to day stuff in-game. If he starts taking too many breaks while doing a task, I tell him to take a break. Usually in the summer, if he gets too tired, he will fall asleep right next to the fire In winter, he wont. I have also crafted a bench close to the fire which both Kelvin and Virginia both use quite a bit.

[Buckshot]

Originally posted by RainmakerLTU:

Originally posted by Buckshot:

Huh? Are you saying we can put sticks and logs into the fire?

You can cut log into 4 pieces. Then take one of them and cut in half - this is firewood now. While holding it in hand, approach firepit and 2 dotted lines appear in it asking to put in the firewood. Also firewood can be put on ground for storage. Only older stacks, seems stop accepting new pieces pretty soon, seems bug to me.

Super cool. Thanks mate.

[Kryten]

Originally posted by Andi:

Originally posted by Buckshot:

Huh? Are you saying we can put sticks and logs into the fire?

you can cut quarter logs into firewood wich burns for ages.

I have yet to witness my fire going out after adding firewood. I have never added anything since then (no leaves or money) and its still burning after quite some days. Does it really go out at any point?

[RainmakerLTU]

Originally posted by Kryten:

Originally posted by Andi:

you can cut quarter logs into firewood wich burns for ages.

I have yet to witness my fire going out after adding firewood. I have never added anything since then (no leaves or money) and its still burning after quite some days. Does it really go out at any point?

it can burn for couple days non-stop. But always goes out when we sleep trough winter; which is 4-5 days.

[Kryten]

Originally posted by RainmakerLTU:

Originally posted by Kryten:

I have yet to witness my fire going out after adding firewood. I have never added anything since then (no leaves or money) and its still burning after quite some days. Does it really go out at any point?

it can burn for couple days non-stop. But always goes out when we sleep trough winter; which is 4-5 days.

Maybe its tied to seasons then (would not make much sense tho I think), as I have slept more nights and its still burning. I have set that game to realistic seasons though, so I am probably still in spring or summer.

[RainmakerLTU]

Or maybe rain and snowfall can extinguish it. Need to keep an eye what fire is doing when it's raining.

[AnInfiniteArc]

I can confirm that I've had at least two fires with firewood eventually go out, but it did take several days and potentially a season change. My friends and I went and did the shovel cave and it turned winter on our way back to our base, where all the fires were out.