Building is too tedious + deforestation simulator

[....]

I like the game but some things seriously are really bad for fun:

1) Build/Grind
Iunderstand that they wanted to have a "realism" feel to the building but the way it is now its not fun at all.

Grind to build:
- building requires way too many logs and trees dont respawn fast enough and dont drop enough logs
- building pretty much leads to complete deforestation - if you take wood from further away building becomes even more tedious only carrying 2 logs a trip - i want to have a nice looking base - not a desert base because i need all the trees on this planet for a house and a fence ...
- why would they not instantly give players at least a sled to transport more logs?
- in general the grind compared to the importance of a single base in this game seems off - the map is just too big and the traverl too slow for a single base to be that usefull

Find the invisible log - sidegame
- When playing at high settings and cutting down a tree in the woods with lots of bushes etc. its almost impossible to find all the logs since they are pretty much invisibile when they land in bushes/grass and they will randmoly start a journey across the map ...
- when putting down logs they will suddenly become selfconscious and start their own live ...

Easy to destroy:
- so there is lots of tedious grind to build - yet buildings are destroyed pretty easily ...

Lack of planning:
- Free-Build without beeing able to make blueprints is a mess - you never know what even works, often random posts cant be removed
- lots of building parts are missing so depending on how you build you will always have tons of holes you can never fill

Game mechancis make no sense:
- one the one hand everything is an absurd grind - on the other hand we have an NPC that pretty much auto-builds etc. and reduced some grind too zero - at least if you only build blueprints
- i also dont want to use the NPC for much since when collecting branches he will trigger 99% of all enemys on the map and when collecting logs he will make everything look like a wasteland and even destroy your tree-bases according to some other players


Suggestions:
- give players the ability to craft a sled for logs from the start
- give players the ability to drop logs on the floor in a pre-defined way to for example make them roll downwards in the right direction and make the player able to drop them on the floor and stay there
- make logs dropped into bushes etc. way more visible and stop absurd movements of logs (or add an option for that - outlne etc.) in real life nobody has to do a 10 hour search for logs because in real life you can also instantly see them and they wont move across the map in 80% of cases
- reduce the ammount of logs required for buildings or increase the drop rate of trees, the respawn of trees and the ability to carry more than 2 logs
- it doesnt even make sense that everything is made out of logs or half logs ...
- maybe in general add settings for players to reduce the grind
- given how unimportant bases are due to the size of the map and travel speed i seriously wonder if building bases should be this tedious - i would understand it if you would build one big base but that does hardly make sense on such a huge map

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I wonder how people even build a wall in SP they probably use all the wood arround their base and build for a year ...

[Caduryn]

lol..... complaining about a little bit work....

[Hoxer]

Building is awesome. This is the best building mechanic any survival game has ever seen.

[....]

Originally posted by Caduryn:

lol..... complaining about a little bit work....

You know why games are called games and not work?

I have no problems with not getting everythign instantly - but having to search for 50% of the logs after cutting down a tree just to carry 2 logs a time and not even knowing if what you started to build works doenst seem fun to me.

I play games to have fun - not to have endless grind. It would be enough to me if they added some more game options.

[Caduryn]

Originally posted by ....:

Originally posted by Caduryn:

lol..... complaining about a little bit work....

You know why games are called games and not work?

I have no problems with not getting everythign instantly - but having to search for 50% of the logs after cutting down a tree just to carry 2 logs a time and not even knowing if what you started to build works doenst seem fun to me.

I play games to have fun - not to have endless grind. It would be enough to me if they added some more game options.

One Word.... zip line, your base will swim in Logs


Thank me later

[kenneth]

if you played the forest you would have known that it's a survival/build game are you really complaining about cutting trees and build ? you should have research more about the game

[trevorkrause]

Originally posted by ....:

I like the game but some things seriously are really bad for fun:

1) Build/Grind
Iunderstand that they wanted to have a "realism" feel to the building but the way it is now its not fun at all.

Grind to build:
- building requires way too many logs and trees dont respawn fast enough and dont drop enough logs
- building pretty much leads to complete deforestation - if you take wood from further away building becomes even more tedious only carrying 2 logs a trip - i want to have a nice looking base - not a desert base because i need all the trees on this planet for a house and a fence ...
- why would they not instantly give players at least a sled to transport more logs?
- in general the grind compared to the importance of a single base in this game seems off - the map is just too big and the traverl too slow for a single base to be that usefull

Find the invisible log - sidegame
- When playing at high settings and cutting down a tree in the woods with lots of bushes etc. its almost impossible to find all the logs since they are pretty much invisibile when they land in bushes/grass and they will randmoly start a journey across the map ...
- when putting down logs they will suddenly become selfconscious and start their own live ...

Easy to destroy:
- so there is lots of tedious grind to build - yet buildings are destroyed pretty easily ...

Lack of planning:
- Free-Build without beeing able to make blueprints is a mess - you never know what even works, often random posts cant be removed
- lots of building parts are missing so depending on how you build you will always have tons of holes you can never fill

Game mechancis make no sense:
- one the one hand everything is an absurd grind - on the other hand we have an NPC that pretty much auto-builds etc. and reduced some grind too zero - at least if you only build blueprints
- i also dont want to use the NPC for much since when collecting branches he will trigger 99% of all enemys on the map and when collecting logs he will make everything look like a wasteland and even destroy your tree-bases according to some other players


Suggestions:
- give players the ability to craft a sled for logs from the start
- give players the ability to drop logs on the floor in a pre-defined way to for example make them roll downwards in the right direction and make the player able to drop them on the floor and stay there
- make logs dropped into bushes etc. way more visible and stop absurd movements of logs (or add an option for that - outlne etc.) in real life nobody has to do a 10 hour search for logs because in real life you can also instantly see them and they wont move across the map in 80% of cases
- reduce the ammount of logs required for buildings or increase the drop rate of trees, the respawn of trees and the ability to carry more than 2 logs
- it doesnt even make sense that everything is made out of logs or half logs ...
- maybe in general add settings for players to reduce the grind
- given how unimportant bases are due to the size of the map and travel speed i seriously wonder if building bases should be this tedious - i would understand it if you would build one big base but that does hardly make sense on such a huge map

in general the grind compared to the importance of a single base in this game seems off - the map is just too big and the traverl too slow for a single base to be that useful

if you put a base in the correct spot all the game finish items are in a circle around it except end game.

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[Calous Caine]

at least you're not chopping a tree for two to three minutes like in the first game. . .

[pansekitoo]

there is no point in building a base in today's game at all:
it has to be tedious, and slow, and eventually they will constantly destroy it for you so that this process takes as long as possible.

if none of this... you would quickly realise that there is practically no game at all here.

[Noctoculus]

Get Kel to gather logs for you. I liked building my house and there was plenty of trees for a wall. Not that it matters because the gate can't be built yet. Have people here not played the first game?

[LeeIzaZombie]

They give you a butler, rope gun that shoots logs up and down, log holders auto collect logs that are thrown, GPS with all caves marked, throw indicator and even guns with lots of ammo but people always want games to be easier and hold their hands throughout.. then complain after speed running the game that isn't supposed to be about a story

Nothing changes

[pEEtrs]

It's not only building. I'm quite baffled that bed needs duct tape, which I think is supposed to be scarce (that containers don't save their state seems to be bug and not inteded and so there's unlimited resources at the moment). How about some plant rope?

EDIT: Not to mention that I would not want to sleep in such crude and ugly bed :P

[JocularJosh]

Originally posted by pEEtrs:

It's not only building. I'm quite baffled that bed needs duct tape, which I think is supposed to be scarce (that containers don't save their state seems to be bug and not inteded and so there's unlimited resources at the moment). How about some plant rope?

EDIT: Not to mention that I would not want to sleep in such crude and ugly bed :P

Actually, as brain dead as this might sound, stuff respawning is an intended mechanic.
Don’t ask me why since it makes the survival part of this survival game trivial.

[pEEtrs]

Originally posted by JocularJosh:

Originally posted by pEEtrs:

It's not only building. I'm quite baffled that bed needs duct tape, which I think is supposed to be scarce (that containers don't save their state seems to be bug and not inteded and so there's unlimited resources at the moment). How about some plant rope?

EDIT: Not to mention that I would not want to sleep in such crude and ugly bed :P

Actually, as brain dead as this might sound, stuff respawning is an intended mechanic.
Don’t ask me why since it makes the survival part of this survival game trivial.

What the actual .... ???? If what you said is true, then I'm one sad panda, because I can no longer get refund. I though I'm buying survival game with limited resources (i.e. one needs to survive). Not the case apparently, because all it takes is to save at tent and reload :(

[Pisaro]

Originally posted by ....:

Originally posted by Caduryn:

lol..... complaining about a little bit work....

You know why games are called games and not work?

I have no problems with not getting everythign instantly - but having to search for 50% of the logs after cutting down a tree just to carry 2 logs a time and not even knowing if what you started to build works doenst seem fun to me.

I play games to have fun - not to have endless grind. It would be enough to me if they added some more game options.

Well, Kelvin is youre goat then. He can fill logstores without a Problem.

Normaly you need MAYBE an hour to build youre wall...

Or use ziplines.