Can't buy this in Germany???

[Stimpy]

It's listed in most other countries but its not available in Germany. I really like to buy the UNREAL DEAL COLLECTION.

How come it is not allowed in Germany since it has nothing to do with censorship?

[Z.Ibrahimovic]

It contains violence for which Germany forbid the Unreal games a lot of years ago.

If you really want the game add me. I buy and gift the unreal deal after a payment (iban or paypal). Make sure with a paypal transfer you send money to a friend so no 10% roams off the amount to paypal.

I already gifted it before to someone unknown from germany after a payment. That was around 8 september 2013 which thread may still be visible here on the steam forums.

[Z.Ibrahimovic]

Found that topic: http://steamcommunity.com/app/13230/discussions/0/846963710934566721/

[Z.Ibrahimovic]

Looks like gog.com does not offer ut3, but their pricing is as a bundel far more interesting.

There is however as well a place to buy the unreal deal: http://www.kinguin.net/category/1262/unreal-deal-pack-steam-gift/

[Z.Ibrahimovic]

wow never tought censure would go beyond just bad words, how lame.

kin guin .net

[jefe]

Games are routinely censored in Germany. IIRC, UT2004 was released there, just without gibs and red blood.

[Stimpy]

All fine now. Someone "gifted" me ;-) Thanks for ur answers!

[ggmini]

The German rating system has rated every UT and both the Unreal Games with a 16+. Although some of them say dt. Version (German Version), which means, they've been censored.
If you look on Wikipedia in Germany it says, that the Standard uncensored Version of UT 2004 is not for sale in Germany (aka. Not rated ->basically banned)
Guessing this means that epic only wants to sell the uncensored versions on steam.



Btw. Just checked, I couldn't find any Unreal games in the German GOG.com store either

[kofel]

Hey, I just saw that the unreal deal pack is below 4€ right now, could someone please "gift" the game to me? Same problem as before here, not available in Germany...

[FloosWorld]

Quick summary:

Unreal, Unreal II → never indexed in Germany by the BPjM but preventively censored
Unreal Tournament GOTY → indexed 4 years after its release
Unreal Tournament 2003, 2004 & 3 → were released in a censored version (No Gore, green Blood), indexed in their uncut version

Indexing games should prevent younger people from buying games, movies etc which might be "socially desorientating" but it's still legal for adults (18 years in Germany) to buy the game if you can proove that you're 18, but that's unfortunately only works when buying retail versions.

Steam, GOG etc should introduce some feature where you have to put in your ID from the ID card to confirm your age and get you access to the "forbidden games".

My tip for indexed and blocked games: buy them on GOG using Opera VPN.

[=F.F.M=Witchcraft]

So weird I would expect to be less censure in Germany than in France and specially not Unreal series when I see the many og German players there.
We even have Postal 2 here since many years (France)

[FloosWorld]

Originally posted by =F.F.M=Witchcraft:

So weird I would expect to be less censure in Germany than in France and specially not Unreal series when I see the many og German players there.
We even have Postal 2 here since many years (France)

Germany did some kind of witchhunt with violent games in the 90s until the beginning of the 2010s:
Red blood was turned into green blood (MDK turned green blood into blue blood and Delta Force even had white blood), Games with Swastikas (most famous the Wolfenstein Games) were indexed, no gore etc. Some games like the first Hitman or even Max Payne were indexed but later released from it.

One of the most absurd censor measures were taken with the first Carmageddon:
Uncut Version → Humans, red blood
UK Version → Zombies, green blood
German Version → Robots which look like trash cans, oil?

[=F.F.M=Witchcraft]

This is crazy, I really thought anglophone country and Deutschland had a way much liberal culture about violence than us, Carmaggeddon 64 had green blood here but I could play Carmageddon 2 (which was the same) had full violence on computer.
And even more with the Gothic Side of UT99 I linked with germanic culture :p

[FloosWorld]

In the last few years the USK and BPjM calmed down here :D They even gave an USK 18 Rating for the last two Mortal Kombat games

[Yen]

cant download the game... so can i activate a key in germany but not download ?

[FloosWorld]

Once you activated the key it shouldn't be an issue to download it. However - buying the game on GOG using Opera VPN is the better option.