How is this considered better than UT99?

[Rydychyn]

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[Z.Ibrahimovic]

Originally posted by Nihil:

Generally peoples favorite game of a series is the first one they played

Can confirm that is the case for me. I enjoyed UT2003 a lot and continued to play it while 2k4 was out for a while. Also because there were loads of cheaters online in 2k4 after launch and less in 2k3.

Originally posted by papalazarou:

i played them all , starting with unreal, i played ut99 for a while then when 2003 came out it was a revelation varied traversal around maps boost jump double jumps, way more exciting, was a big jump in gameplay and skills, then 2004 refined it. Looked forward to ut3 and realised it was amazingly good looking but a step back in game mechanics, then ut4 seemed promising but went nowhere. For me ut2k4 is best, but enjoy whatever suits you:praisesun:

Good to see you have control back over your steam account.

[papalazarou]

Originally posted by Z.Ibrahimovic:

Originally posted by Nihil:

Generally peoples favorite game of a series is the first one they played

Can confirm that is the case for me. I enjoyed UT2003 a lot and continued to play it while 2k4 was out for a while. Also because there were loads of cheaters online in 2k4 after launch and less in 2k3.

Originally posted by papalazarou:

i played them all , starting with unreal, i played ut99 for a while then when 2003 came out it was a revelation varied traversal around maps boost jump double jumps, way more exciting, was a big jump in gameplay and skills, then 2004 refined it. Looked forward to ut3 and realised it was amazingly good looking but a step back in game mechanics, then ut4 seemed promising but went nowhere. For me ut2k4 is best, but enjoy whatever suits you

Good to see you have control back over your steam account.

thanks

[UmbralPenumbra]

I dont think cheaters affected me much in 2k4 because I spent most of my time on trials servers which were awesome af

[adz]

both are good i really like the steam version as it includes all 2003 content like maps. was so glad to see my favourite maps in 2004.

[Tayzor Azul]

Aren't they the same game ? I mean UT 99 is just nostalgia. UT 2004 has all the things UT 99 had. But with more player models to chose from.

[Scuzz MB]

Originally posted by Tayzor Azul:

Aren't they the same game ? I mean UT 99 is just nostalgia. UT 2004 has all the things UT 99 had. But with more player models to chose from.

Very different physics. Vehicle Combat. Different weapon dynamics. There's no way you could play them one right after the other and mistake them for the same game.

[Tayzor Azul]

Originally posted by Scuzz MB:

Originally posted by Tayzor Azul:

Aren't they the same game ? I mean UT 99 is just nostalgia. UT 2004 has all the things UT 99 had. But with more player models to chose from.

Very different physics. Vehicle Combat. Different weapon dynamics. There's no way you could play them one right after the other and mistake them for the same game.

Hmm most weapons remain the same mechanic wise, movement fells a little faster.
Sure the vehicles are new and most gamemodes.
Also didn't UT 2004 came with the mutator that has UT 99 style movement ?

[PorcusGrunzus]

All a matter of taste. I for one prefer UT3 over UT99 for example and I guess this is a mighty unpopular opinion that will cause a controversy. In the end I like all UT's though. Each one has its pros and cons. UT2004 is great and I love Bombing Run. There is also Jailbreak, which is a mod but this mode is also amazing in UT2004.

[Indigo Jinx]

Originally posted by WHIPperSNAPper:

It depends on who you ask. There are UT99 fans and UT 2004 fans out there, many of whom will say the game they prefer is the best. The only real objective measure I can think of is to measure online multiplayer activity at a given amount of time after each game's release (aka, "the player counts don't lie"). If you look at it that way, UT99 thumped UT 2004.

Heck then THAT means Dreamcast Quake3 was the BEST 1st person shooter ever... (it was good, but not THAT good, just popular, & add all the PC players into the #s, & it was insanely popular). Fact is that more, & more of these type of games (& other people were migrating to) were coming out between 99, & 04... saying 99 is/was better because there were once more players means literally nothing. They kept upgrading these Unreal games over the years, & the ONLY bad thing they ever added was the stupid doubletap dodge, EVERYTHING else was an improvement.

[WHIPperSNAPper]

Originally posted by IndigoJinx:

Heck then THAT means Dreamcast Quake3 was the BEST 1st person shooter ever... (it was good, but not THAT good, just popular, & add all the PC players into the #s, & it was insanely popular).

It might not make much sense to compare games across platforms; it's possible that there were more console gamers at that time, etc.

Originally posted by IndigoJinx:

Fact is that more, & more of these type of games (& other people were migrating to) were coming out between 99, & 04... saying 99 is/was better because there were once more players means literally nothing.

Interpret the data any way you want, but the amount of people playing UT99 online at X-amount of time after UT99's release was much, much higher than the amount playing UT 2004 online at X-amount of time after UT 2004's release. I remember when I first logged on to UT 2004 back in 2006 to find the CTF servers almost completely empty with perhaps three hundred people split between DM, Onslaught, and Invasion RPG. In contrast when I first got UT99 in 2001 it was hopping with hundreds of populated servers and multiple thousands of players online 24/7, dozens if not hundreds of clans active in leagues and ladders, and 5v5 CTF PUG matches organized on IRC that went on for years.

As far as I can tell, UT 2004 never had anything like that amount of activity whereas UT99 held players' attention for several years. I chalk it up to UT 2004's floaty-dodgey movement taking the fun out of the competitive "on-foot" (non-vehicular) modes like the mainstay CTF. Bombing Run should have been a huge hit on paper and would have been a hit in UT99 had it released as a standard game mode. People seemed to be playing Onslaught and the non-competitive PvE Invastion-RPG. I think UT 2004 was a good game in its own right - for Onslaught and Invasion RPG. But overall it wasn't nearly as good of a game for non-vehicular "on foot" PvP game modes.

[=F.F.M=Witchcraft]

Originally posted by Miauz55555:

Because!

The best answer possible to this endless debate (and I love both)

[UmbralPenumbra]

Originally posted by =F.F.M=Witchcraft:

Originally posted by Miauz55555:

Because!

The best answer possible to this endless debate

lol

I love both

Same. They're both good for their own reasons

[Tayzor Azul]

Both are masterpieces because Epic did not even bother to make UT 4.
Short story ? F*** Fortnite, it made EPIC into a Epic Fail company.

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