Do Lobsters even exist?

[Solarmax]

I spent half of my game time fishing for Lobster because I made a mistake of picking ritual of harvest over bounty.
The chance of getting lobster is scewed to the point I am questioning whenever it's possible without bounty.

Did anyone was able to get Lobster without bounty ritual?

[Crystalrequiem]

I've been trying but if it's not a bug then it's in serious need of a random chance retune; I saw one crab at the very beginning of the game and never since. I haven't fished every single day, but I beat the game with 27 hours on the save and never caught any rare but octopus the whole rest of the run.

[CyberShadow]

I think the kind of fish you can catch depends on the current day or something.

[CyberShadow]

I just had a look at the code. Nothing to do with the current day or anything.

Fishing is currently just bugged. The way the code works is:

- Look at every programmed fish type in the game, in turn
- For every fish type, generate a random number between 0 and 1
- If the number is below the fish type's programmed probability, return that fish type
- Otherwise, keep looking

The problem with this algorithm is that it is biased towards fish types ahead of the list. This means that if you have e.g. in order, squid -> swordfish -> octopus -> lobster, each with a 10% probability, the actual probabilities are going to be 10%, 9%, 8.1%, and 7.29%. It keeps getting worse the longer the list is.

[Merio049]

i caught all the needed fish just fine without bounty, it was on release day before some of the patches tho so maybe one of those bonked it.

[Doctor Darling]

I just the bounty ritual and got it first try.

[NovaNades]

Yea, I've done all the achievements but the fishing one, spent hours trying to catch a swordfish. very annoying

[CyberShadow]

Item	Qty	Size	Intended probability (no ritual)	Actual probability (no ritual)	Intended probability (with ritual)	Actual probability (with ritual)
FISH_SMALL	3	0.8-1	30%	32.358%	30%	30.5544%
FISH	3	1.5-2	30%	22.6506%	30%	21.3881%
FISH_BLOWFISH	2	1-2	25%	13.2129%	25%	12.4764%
FISH_CRAB	1	1-2	25%	9.9096%	25%	9.3573%
FISH_SQUID	2	1-2	15%	4.4593%	37.5%	10.5269%
FISH_BIG	2	3-4	35%	8.8444%	35%	6.1407%
FISH_LOBSTER	1	3-4	15%	2.4638%	37.5%	4.2766%
FISH_OCTOPUS	1	3-4	25%	3.4904%	62.5%	4.4548%
FISH_SWORDFISH	2	3-4	5%	0.5236%	12.5%	0.3341%
LOG	2	1-2	5%	0.4974%	5%	0.1169%
GRASS	2	1-2	5%	0.4725%	5%	0.1111%
GOLD_REFINED	2	1-2	5%	0.4489%	5%	0.1055%
FOUND_ITEM_DECORATION	2	1-2	4%	0.3412%	4%	0.0802%
FOUND_ITEM_FOLLOWERSKIN	2	1-2	4%	0.3275%	4%	0.077%

[neock]

i had no problem catching a lobby. infact... got 2 on my second day fishing. that was last night

[Jesski]

CyberShadow is putting in some work! Thank you!

[Rei]

Originally posted by CyberShadow:

Item	Qty	Size	Intended probability (no ritual)	Actual probability (no ritual)	Intended probability (with ritual)	Actual probability (with ritual)
FISH_SMALL	3	0.8-1	30%	32.358%	30%	30.5544%
FISH	3	1.5-2	30%	22.6506%	30%	21.3881%
FISH_BLOWFISH	2	1-2	25%	13.2129%	25%	12.4764%
FISH_CRAB	1	1-2	25%	9.9096%	25%	9.3573%
FISH_SQUID	2	1-2	15%	4.4593%	37.5%	10.5269%
FISH_BIG	2	3-4	35%	8.8444%	35%	6.1407%
FISH_LOBSTER	1	3-4	15%	2.4638%	37.5%	4.2766%
FISH_OCTOPUS	1	3-4	25%	3.4904%	62.5%	4.4548%
FISH_SWORDFISH	2	3-4	5%	0.5236%	12.5%	0.3341%
LOG	2	1-2	5%	0.4974%	5%	0.1169%
GRASS	2	1-2	5%	0.4725%	5%	0.1111%
GOLD_REFINED	2	1-2	5%	0.4489%	5%	0.1055%
FOUND_ITEM_DECORATION	2	1-2	4%	0.3412%	4%	0.0802%
FOUND_ITEM_FOLLOWERSKIN	2	1-2	4%	0.3275%	4%	0.077%

Explains why I am on Day 97 and still got no Lobster. Bad luck on top of bad code

[peep]

I got one on the third time I ever fished. I guess it's just luck. You can always use the fishing ritual.

[peep]

BTW I got it on the first time I visited that area with no ritual. So yeah, its pure luck.

[Vukmir]

Same but with swordfish. I think Cybershadow got it right.

[Pink Steel Drills™]

I have a secret for those of you who are fishing without a Ritual to back you up;
You're doing it wrong
Hope this helps

[Hellbeholder]

I'm fairly certain this is bugged for my save-file. I've been fishing a lot to finally get the lobster but the only big thing I'm hooking is the octopus. Just now I had 7 big shapes in the water and every single one of them was an octopus. I have 25 or so by now.