1st follower

[RoxxasTheDemonslayer]

needs to be changed to have non random ... stats?
(the + or - things)
rest of 1st level is mostly scripted, they should be too, with GOOD stuff so you have a non bad start.

posting as was fairly sure said change HAD been done ages ago,

[Alucard †]

You talking about recruited followers?
Pretty sure it's random. 99% sure.

[Azrael]

My first follower and the one the Old Rat gifted to me were always horrible, sloths and weak in both body and soul T_T
To the point, I started a new save... and recieved two jerks and sloths
Okay, no, delete :D

[Remnant Melody]

I get the annoyance for perfectionist-mindset.. but the game isn't that hard. I've got 12 relatively junky-trait followers and at 2 outta 4 dungeon paths cleared and no real issues. EXCEPT for Eligos stabbing the living crap outta someone, resulting in a death. Don't mess with Frowls (frog+owl). I'm more amused by the random A.I antics.. and Jerks just make me really happy to either Murder or Sacrifice happily! A very much "Ohhh, I know what you're going to be used for soooon.. Mr. Vampire Fox is hungiewungie for yoooou." :P hahahaha

[Azrael]

True, can't complain
Saves me the headache to decide who to toss to Midas or the Fox, or just to sacrifice ^^

[RoxxasTheDemonslayer]

restart number 5 as the one ratu gave me had high fear and 'lose faith on recruit'

... yeah first 3? that are part of intial questline need to be Non random or at least have their bad stuff adusted and/or removed.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by RoxxasTheDemonslayer:

restart number 5 as the one ratu gave me had high fear and 'lose faith on recruit'

... yeah first 3? that are part of intial questline need to be Non random or at least have their bad stuff adusted and/or removed.

Or just play the game because it's not that bad especially the "skeptic" trait, oh boy minus 10 faith on recruit how could someone EVER make 10 faith back.

[Azrael]

Just for fun... started a new save
1st follower?
Faithless
Sloth
Terrified of Death

Ouch

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Azrael:

Just for fun... started a new save
1st follower?
Faithless
Sloth
Terrified of Death

Ouch

Two of those can be worked around so that's not as bad as it looks.
Faithless can be straight up counteracted with the Faithful trait
Sloth can be straight up counteracted with the Industrious trait
Terrified of Death is actually a GOOD thing to get early on because only ONE follower can have that trait at a time.

[RoxxasTheDemonslayer]

Originally posted by Azrael:

Just for fun... started a new save
1st follower?
Faithless
Sloth
Terrified of Death

Ouch

and stuff like that is why the first ones need to said stuff changed.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by RoxxasTheDemonslayer:

Originally posted by Azrael:

Just for fun... started a new save
1st follower?
Faithless
Sloth
Terrified of Death

Ouch

and stuff like that is why the first ones need to said stuff changed.

That's not as bad as you make it out to be!

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

Two of those can be worked around so that's not as bad as it looks.
Faithless can be straight up counteracted with the Faithful trait
Sloth can be straight up counteracted with the Industrious trait
Terrified of Death is actually a GOOD thing to get early on because only ONE follower can have that trait at a time.

[Azrael]

For a first follower the fact you sometimes have to work around several of not all of its traits is quite a headache...
Not earth shattering sure, but having something, like a gold pooper or at least Faithful, god forbid, Zealous would help greatly, especially on harder difficulities - Hard is not shooting you in the leg mind you! Xou have enough problem to juggle around without your first few followers kicking you in the kiwis too...
But having a Cynical Hot Tempered Jerk as a first one is something is enough to a delete...

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Azrael:

For a first follower the fact you sometimes have to work around several of not all of its traits is quite a headache...
Not earth shattering sure, but having something, like a gold pooper or at least Faithful, god forbid, Zealous would help greatly, especially on harder difficulities - Hard is not shooting you in the leg mind you! Xou have enough problem to juggle around without your first few followers kicking you in the kiwis too...
But having a Cynical Hot Tempered Jerk as a first one is something is enough to a delete...

Except in the case with the example traits, because the traits unlocked via the doctrines force that trait onto all followers so in a way your starter follower can suggest what trait you might want to take first since once you take its counter trait then the negative trait is permanently exiled from your cult as a whole, in other words the building blocks for the now included making your ideal followers with the eggs.

[Azrael]

You constantly bringing up mid and end game "solutions" to a first follower "problem"
No point to continue this argument