I would like a way to save Ratau from the Fox if we previously sacrificed him

[AZURPHOENIX999]

Title. I gave over Ratau because I wanted the wolf follower form, but I'd very much like to have both. In a future update could we be able to find the fox and kick his ass to get Ratau back?

[Azrael]

The Fox devoured him, probably
But the Lamb is the new God of Death and we regularry resurrect our followers, and Ratau was a devoted follower
Now probably the old Rat would be a bit... morose after we fed it to a killer fox-demon - it would be an awesome opportunity to have a quest chain to earn back his turst!
On the same note, re-recruiting Baal and Aym would be nice too!

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Azrael:

The Fox devoured him, probably
But the Lamb is the new God of Death and we regularry resurrect our followers, and Ratau was a devoted follower
Now probably the old Rat would be a bit... morose after we fed it to a killer fox-demon - it would be an awesome opportunity to have a quest chain to earn back his turst!
On the same note, re-recruiting Baal and Aym would be nice too!

At the time of Ratau's death the Lamb WASN'T the God of Death, Narinder still had that power and guess who didn't care about you sacrificing him in such a way.

[AZURPHOENIX999]

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

Originally posted by Azrael:

The Fox devoured him, probably
But the Lamb is the new God of Death and we regularry resurrect our followers, and Ratau was a devoted follower
Now probably the old Rat would be a bit... morose after we fed it to a killer fox-demon - it would be an awesome opportunity to have a quest chain to earn back his turst!
On the same note, re-recruiting Baal and Aym would be nice too!

At the time of Ratau's death the Lamb WASN'T the God of Death, Narinder still had that power and guess who didn't care about you sacrificing him in such a way.

I mean, you still could have the power to resurrect followers at that point, and even if you didn't, I'm pretty sure you weren't restricted to only resurrecting people who died after you gained the power.

As a side note, I'd also like to be able to re-recruit Baal and Aym. So long as they got their mother's blessing first.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by AZURPHOENIX999:

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

At the time of Ratau's death the Lamb WASN'T the God of Death, Narinder still had that power and guess who didn't care about you sacrificing him in such a way.

I mean, you still could have the power to resurrect followers at that point, and even if you didn't, I'm pretty sure you weren't restricted to only resurrecting people who died after you gained the power.

You never questioned why you couldn't resurrect followers that died by someone else's hand have you? All the followers in the list are followers that died by your hand or of natural causes, you didn't have the capability to resurrect whoever you wanted because you were nothing but a vessel that possessed a fragment of that power, even after being declared the new God of Death you really expect the Lamb to have a full understanding of their new position that they were thrusted into, plus if Fox even COULD be defeated, don't you think ALL of the bishops (yes including Narinder) at the peak of their power wouldn't have done something about him already? If they couldn't even defeat the Fox with their combined might, what remote possibility would you have?

[Azrael]

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

Originally posted by AZURPHOENIX999:

I mean, you still could have the power to resurrect followers at that point, and even if you didn't, I'm pretty sure you weren't restricted to only resurrecting people who died after you gained the power.

You never questioned why you couldn't resurrect followers that died by someone else's hand have you? All the followers in the list are followers that died by your hand or of natural causes, you didn't have the capability to resurrect whoever you wanted because you were nothing but a vessel that possessed a fragment of that power, even after being declared the new God of Death you really expect the Lamb to have a full understanding of their new position that they were thrusted into, plus if Fox even COULD be defeated, don't you think ALL of the bishops (yes including Narinder) at the peak of their power wouldn't have done something about him already? If they couldn't even defeat the Fox with their combined might, what remote possibility would you have?

True, we don't know what the Fox is
But when we sacrifice (or Ascend, check it out, follower meat rains from the sky...) someone, we don't sacrifice it to Narinder, but some tentacled eldritch abomination grabs it with its tentacles and drags it down to its realm
After we defeated Baal and Aym they were in the realm in Narinder, "were given to him" so it is a good question, they were alive or not, or we killed them or not... but they ended up in the tentacles of the said eldritch abomination, whom we saved/traded them
And the ??? and Narinder both basically said, the Lamb is the last remaining God on the world/island and shaper of afterlife:
"Ha! Hahahaha! I cannot begrudge supplantation by one such as yourself. Why contain death? And with none to stand in your way. You are, after all, the last God left in the Lands of the Old Faith."- Narinder
"Infant God, by your influence this Land is changing, 'tis true. The laws of this world, and even of the next, have become malleable."- ???

So, yeah, while we don't know who or what the Fox is, it is not a God (or at least not a God in the Lands of the Old Faith) and the Lamb is growing stronger
I could easly see we could bargain/wrestle back the old rat from it - just as I said, I'm not really sure Ratau would be happy to see us (again, earning back his trust via a quest chain would be awesome)
Baal and Aym are easy, they are out there, adventuring, we even meet them during a crusade ^^

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Azrael:

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

You never questioned why you couldn't resurrect followers that died by someone else's hand have you? All the followers in the list are followers that died by your hand or of natural causes, you didn't have the capability to resurrect whoever you wanted because you were nothing but a vessel that possessed a fragment of that power, even after being declared the new God of Death you really expect the Lamb to have a full understanding of their new position that they were thrusted into, plus if Fox even COULD be defeated, don't you think ALL of the bishops (yes including Narinder) at the peak of their power wouldn't have done something about him already? If they couldn't even defeat the Fox with their combined might, what remote possibility would you have?

True, we don't know what the Fox is
But when we sacrifice (or Ascend, check it out, follower meat rains from the sky...) someone, we don't sacrifice it to Narinder, but some tentacled eldritch abomination grabs it with its tentacles and drags it down to its realm
After we defeated Baal and Aym they were in the realm in Narinder, "were given to him" so it is a good question, they were alive or not, or we killed them or not... but they ended up in the tentacles of the said eldritch abomination, whom we saved/traded them
And the ??? and Narinder both basically said, the Lamb is the last remaining God on the world/island and shaper of afterlife:
"Ha! Hahahaha! I cannot begrudge supplantation by one such as yourself. Why contain death? And with none to stand in your way. You are, after all, the last God left in the Lands of the Old Faith."- Narinder
"Infant God, by your influence this Land is changing, 'tis true. The laws of this world, and even of the next, have become malleable."- ???

So, yeah, while we don't know who or what the Fox is, it is not a God (or at least not a God in the Lands of the Old Faith) and the Lamb is growing stronger
I could easly see we could bargain/wrestle back the old rat from it - just as I said, I'm not really sure Ratau would be happy to see us (again, earning back his trust via a quest chain would be awesome)
Baal and Aym are easy, they are out there, adventuring, we even meet them during a crusade ^^

Aym and Baal were explained with the Relics update, Shamura was the one that sent them to Narinder even their mother says "How can you say no to a god?" Something Shamura would likely be viewed as just like the other bishops.
Edit: oh and how a character dies doesn't seem to fully matter because all the roads led back to Narinder in the end just like your own sacrifice led you right too him, Narinder didn't seem to care about Ratau being sacrificed to Fox in the way he was meaning that since Ratau admits that he was once a vessel for him, he had done something that completely infuriated Narinder to the point where he was happy to see him be killed rather than disappointed, even with you assuming Narinder's position as the God of Death, he would still be the only character that KNEW where Ratau was in the afterlife meaning you would probably be barking up a tree trying to get that information.

[Insert Uncreative Name Here]

I'd love to have Ratau back and get revenge on the fox.

Pretty sure Ratau knew I sacrificed him, because when I started a second game, he literally rolled a ton of 4's and 6's and kicked my butt at Knucklebones for 10 games straight.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Insert Uncreative Name Here:

Pretty sure Ratau knew I sacrificed him, because when I started a second game, he literally rolled a ton of 4's and 6's and kicked my butt at Knucklebones for 10 games straight.

That's just RNG being RNG, has nothing to do with a past playthrough.

[Insert Uncreative Name Here]

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

Originally posted by Insert Uncreative Name Here:

Pretty sure Ratau knew I sacrificed him, because when I started a second game, he literally rolled a ton of 4's and 6's and kicked my butt at Knucklebones for 10 games straight.

That's just RNG being RNG, has nothing to do with a past playthrough.

True, but I still think it'd be funny if he just knew I was doing that and gave me bad luck.

[Finikksu]

At the end of Relics of the Old Faith the Lamb is superior in powers to what the bishops were. Even ??? mentions how we are basically a God, and (I don't remember the exact dialogue or thing) but We can just create an afterlife by sheer faith alone (Belief in Afterlife Doctrine)
With a bit more training (And improving the Black Crown a bit) we could bend the rules to do whatever, that includes getting Ratau back.
I hope they continue these updates and little by little the Lamb becomes even more powerful.
I need to re-read the Lore Tablets, but apparently Haro has some lore still in the works so maybe they are the next thing on the list.

[Clover]

Originally posted by Finikksu_VT:

At the end of Relics of the Old Faith the Lamb is superior in powers to what the bishops were. Even ??? mentions how we are basically a God, and (I don't remember the exact dialogue or thing) but We can just create an afterlife by sheer faith alone (Belief in Afterlife Doctrine)
With a bit more training (And improving the Black Crown a bit) we could bend the rules to do whatever, that includes getting Ratau back.
I hope they continue these updates and little by little the Lamb becomes even more powerful.
I need to re-read the Lore Tablets, but apparently Haro has some lore still in the works so maybe they are the next thing on the list.

??? refers to the Lamb as "Infant God"

[Alucard †]

Fox was so hungry he devoured both the flesh and the very soul of poor Ratau

[AZURPHOENIX999]

Originally posted by Alucard †:

Fox was so hungry he devoured both the flesh and the very soul of poor Ratau

I mean you can still find Ratau on crusades, he gives you challenges. This tells us that at least some part of him is still out there, so I think we should be able to bring him back.

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by AZURPHOENIX999:

Originally posted by Alucard †:

Fox was so hungry he devoured both the flesh and the very soul of poor Ratau

I mean you can still find Ratau on crusades, he gives you challenges. This tells us that at least some part of him is still out there, so I think we should be able to bring him back.

That's Ratoo, his brother :P

Ratau is your mentor and ex Red Crown bearer.
Ratoo is one that lost his heart he is the one that gives you challenges.

There are 2 of them.
Ratau and Ratoo.

Ratau is the one you sacrifice and he is gone. Ratoo still lives and you can even give him a new heart and he occassionally mentions his brother.

[AZURPHOENIX999]

Originally posted by Alucard †:

Originally posted by AZURPHOENIX999:

I mean you can still find Ratau on crusades, he gives you challenges. This tells us that at least some part of him is still out there, so I think we should be able to bring him back.

That's Ratoo, his brother :P

Ratau is your mentor and ex Red Crown bearer.
Ratoo is one that lost his heart he is the one that gives you challenges.

There are 2 of them.
Ratau and Ratoo.

Ratau is the one you sacrifice and he is gone. Ratoo still lives and you can even give him a new heart and he occassionally mentions his brother.

Oh I know who Ratoo is, but I didn't realise he was the one giving me challenges. I thought he was only in the heart room.

Even so, I stand by the opinion that we should be able to bring back Ratau, preferably by beating the snot out of the Fox.