Doctrines

[DutchR]

Is it now worth it getting all doctrines with Forgotten Commandment Stone. Like getting Substances Encouraged and Belief in Prohibition Trait or are some combination still not worth it?

[ihKu47]

I'll jump in and add a related question: Do the rituals unlocked by Forgotten Commandment Stones replace the existing rituals, or can you then after do both like with the traits?

Edit: I'm a dumb dumb, the number of ritual slots would certainly indicate so.

[Bobywan]

Originally posted by ihKu47:

I'll jump in and add a related question: Do the rituals unlocked by Forgotten Commandment Stones replace the existing rituals, or can you then after do both like with the traits?

Edit: I'm a dumb dumb, the number of ritual slots would certainly indicate so.

You get both rituals

[Azrael]

Originally posted by DutchR:

Is it now worth it getting all doctrines with Forgotten Commandment Stone. Like getting Substances Encouraged and Belief in Prohibition Trait or are some combination still not worth it?

Worth it
Substances Encouraged
All Cult members will gain the Substances Encouraged Trait. Gain 20 Faith when Brainwashing Ritual is performed. - this is net gain, 20 Faith when you preform the ritual

Belief in Prohibition Trait
All Cult members will gain the Prohibitionist Trait. Increase work speed and devotion generation by 10% but 50% chance of Followers becoming sick after the Brainwashing Ritual.
- Now this is where it became a bit of a gamble, PARMANENT 10% work speed and devotion is a no brainer. BUT if you preform the ritual (well, you will gain 20 Faith) after it ends, that 50% could lead to an epidemic.
Not really a problem if you asks me, since probbably you sit a tons of flowers and have a sick bay to heal them ASAP
Depends how often do you want to use the Ritual?
If you use it on cooldown? Probbably still worth to have it, because holly hell, PARMANENT 10% work speed and devotion! With a little downside with the may or may not became sick after it ends thing
If you only use the ritual when a follower asks you for a quest or when you want to do something really nasty (ressurect, glutony ritual, enritchment ritual, everything and more that makes your Faith plummet) and first after the Sermon/maxed out Faith to lock it?
Then it is not question, worth it or not... if you can deal with a potential epidemic, then you are good to go

Tho' the wiki states "When both doctrines are declared using Forgotten Commandment Stones, the illness chance of Belief In Prohibition is disabled, leaving only the stat boosts."
This is not really the case, but that may or may no be a bug

[DutchR]

How about the old age one and die young at the same time is that worth the negatives?