is this game anti-Catholic at heart?

[gl00m?]

or is it more satirical, playful, or acknowledging the spiritual reality & the root of Christianity?

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Eldin:

I would say it is more satirical and playful. You’re running a cult so obviously there will be some themes lending towards that, similar to what Quake and Doom does. Lots of symbols present so if you are not okay with that then may not be the game for you, but in the end in my opinion it’s just a game and not trying to be anything outside of that.

When taking the game at visual level yeah it might come off more satire and playful, but when you look at the roles the bishops and the lamb are playing, you do start to notice a more Christianity version when you know of revelation 6 which talks about the horsemen of the apocalypse.
White horse-Conquest
Red horse-War
Black horse-Famine
Pale horse-Death

Leshy-Chaos (a byproduct of Conquest)
Heket-Famine
Kallamar-Pestilence (another name given to Conquest)
Shamura-War
Narinder-Death
Edit: even the chains that are binding Narinder to his prison tie to revelation 6 as it spoke of a "Lamb/Lion breaking FOUR of the seven seals" and Shamura even calls you a "Lion in disguise of a Lamb" when you reject their proposal to bow.

[Remnant Melody]

Nothing new about games, or any media for that matter, borrowing the scary imagery from the bible.. Doesn't make it anti-that religion in any way. No one is being stricken down from the heavens over it. No one is saying people are bad for believing it either.

They asked if the game was being anti-catholic. It isn't anti-any religion. If someone has to find something to be offended over, at best its saying Cults are whimsically nutty and followers are just fodders for the leaders. Which, well.. yea? Even some 'mega churches' treat people as just dollar signs. Religion/Cultism is weaponized a lot, can't deny that.

But there is NO moral hand-wringing here in this game. its exactly as its presented. Dark humor with a funycute art style slaying some gods and deciding to be benevolent or chaotic leader.

[Alucard †]

It's as much a "anti Catholic" game as Doom and Ultrakill are Christian games.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

The satanism is mostly implied, not direct. And aside from possibly the names of characters, I don't really see any specific references to real-world religions.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by Batabii • Cult of the Lamb:

The satanism is mostly implied, not direct. And aside from possibly the names of characters, I don't really see any specific references to real-world religions.

Really? No references to real-world religions at all? Even after I point out that the characters are a cartoon take of Revelation 6?

[Anthracite]

Considering christianity just copied bits and pieces from other, older religions it's as much "anti ancient egyptian" as it is owt else. But in the same way christianity copied other religions to make its own mash up, I see cotl as having copied religions to make its own too, so no, cos it literally is its own religion/cult now (dunno if anyone actually is worshipping the lamb but I wouldn't be surprised).

[gl00m?]

Interesting responses guys - surprised at the basic engagement.

As a modern confirmed Catholic where my biggest sin is secular gaming I'm just curious to what others think.

Originally posted by Alucard †:

It's as much a "anti Catholic" game as Doom and Ultrakill are Christian games.

Played thru Ultrakill today - there is some heavy religious sentiments going on.

I think the Cult of the Lamb is severely demonic in terms of ritual, but in the context of the game I don't think it's objectively harmful spiritually, say compared to the opening of Diablo 4 or something directly against the Faith.

10/10 lamb community is based, thanks for the fair responses guys!

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by gl00miewinter-break:

Interesting responses guys - surprised at the basic engagement.

As a modern confirmed Catholic where my biggest sin is secular gaming I'm just curious to what others think.

Originally posted by Alucard †:

It's as much a "anti Catholic" game as Doom and Ultrakill are Christian games.

Played thru Ultrakill today - there is some heavy religious sentiments going on.

I think the Cult of the Lamb is severely demonic in terms of ritual, but in the context of the game I don't think it's objectively harmful spiritually, say compared to the opening of Diablo 4 or something directly against the Faith.

10/10 lamb community is based, thanks for the fair responses guys!

Here's some advice when it comes to religious alignment chap, don't care about what other people think about your opinions or your belief in religion, you'll be better off only caring about yourself in that manner than trying to fit in like a sheep, that's what leads to a Dystopia and nobody like a Dystopia.

[gl00m?]

I mean I voluntarily engage in my faith and study it, atheism left me soulless

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by gl00miewinter-break:

atheism left me soulless

You say that like it's a bad thing. Atheists don't believe in souls anyway, right?

[Alucard †]

Originally posted by gl00miewinter-break:

Played thru Ultrakill today - there is some heavy religious sentiments going on.

Religious themes yes but it isn't a Christian/Catholic (or anti) game not one bit.

Compare those games (Ultrakill and Doom which both have some religous/demonic themes) to games like "Catechumen" or "I am Jesus Christ" and you'll know exactly what i mean by my previous comment.

[Anthracite]

Originally posted by Batabii • Cult of the Lamb:

You say that like it's a bad thing. Atheists don't believe in souls anyway, right?

Not to start a religious debate but atheism just means you don't believe in any gods. You can absolutely believe in souls, ghosts, spirits, what have you and be atheist.

[Batabii • Suikoden I&II HD]

Originally posted by Anthracite:

Originally posted by Batabii • Cult of the Lamb:

You say that like it's a bad thing. Atheists don't believe in souls anyway, right?

Not to start a religious debate but atheism just means you don't believe in any gods. You can absolutely believe in souls, ghosts, spirits, what have you and be atheist.

Seems hypocritical to me

[gl00m?]

Originally posted by Anthracite:

Originally posted by Batabii • Cult of the Lamb:

You say that like it's a bad thing. Atheists don't believe in souls anyway, right?

Not to start a religious debate but atheism just means you don't believe in any gods. You can absolutely believe in souls, ghosts, spirits, what have you and be atheist.

souls/ghosts/non-holyspirit are generally seen as demonic. Atheists basically decide what they believe in on preference bias or unbelief, they design their subjective hierarchy of metaphysical ideas.

[Anthracite]

You guys also seem very biased in your beliefs, just sayin'. No one's beliefs on the supernatural or spiritual are more objectively more accurate than any other, considering there's never been any definitive proof for any of it.

It's not remotely hypocritical to believe in spirits but not gods, that's how most animist religions (the oldest kind of religion) work, and what christianity thinks of spirits is irrelevant to those who aren't christian. In my experience most christians also pick and choose what to follow too.