Cult maxed out too soon...

[natknut]

I had most of the upgrades before even beating the second world boss. They might need to make devotion take just a bit longer. Same for the crown and stuff, hardly anything left to do other than collect the hearts and shards.

[Suzaku]

Based on player speed. I've beaten the final boss before unlocking all structures.

[natknut]

Originally posted by Suzaku:

Based on player speed. I've beaten the final boss before unlocking all structures.

Yeah I suppose so, I mostly enjoyed the cult side of it, so I probably just did more than the devs expected me to.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by natknut:

Originally posted by Suzaku:

Based on player speed. I've beaten the final boss before unlocking all structures.

Yeah I suppose so, I mostly enjoyed the cult side of it, so I probably just did more than the devs expected me to.

Spending time with your followers seems fair thing to do to keep their faith and a few other needs up.

[GWOP-W×TCH]

Originally posted by natknut:

I had most of the upgrades before even beating the second world boss. They might need to make devotion take just a bit longer. Same for the crown and stuff, hardly anything left to do other than collect the hearts and shards.

Except devotion, waiting on devotion, and collecting devotion is really tedious and not fun. If you increase the time it takes to collect, people would probably play far less... it's really just not that fun. If you want more bang from it, it'd need to be fleshed out in another way, and not just increasing the time it takes just to unlock QoL stuff, especially when it's struggling to meld two genres together which don't want to co-exist, like endless rogue-lites with time-management-sims.

[natknut]

Originally posted by 3OOBLK-imok-:

Originally posted by natknut:

I had most of the upgrades before even beating the second world boss. They might need to make devotion take just a bit longer. Same for the crown and stuff, hardly anything left to do other than collect the hearts and shards.

Except devotion, waiting on devotion, and collecting devotion is really tedious and not fun. If you increase the time it takes to collect, people would probably play far less... it's really just not that fun. If you want more bang from it, it'd need to be fleshed out in another way, and not just increasing the time it takes just to unlock QoL stuff, especially when it's struggling to meld two genres together which don't want to co-exist, like endless rogue-lites with time-management-sims.

That's just it, I had it so good that the statue was full every few minutes. I skyrocketed through devotion.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by natknut:

Originally posted by 3OOBLK-imok-:

Except devotion, waiting on devotion, and collecting devotion is really tedious and not fun. If you increase the time it takes to collect, people would probably play far less... it's really just not that fun. If you want more bang from it, it'd need to be fleshed out in another way, and not just increasing the time it takes just to unlock QoL stuff, especially when it's struggling to meld two genres together which don't want to co-exist, like endless rogue-lites with time-management-sims.

That's just it, I had it so good that the statue was full every few minutes. I skyrocketed through devotion.

I think the difference between you and 300BLK is one waits for the statue to be full and collect all at once versus piece meal collect whenever you're at the camp. Plus there's also smashing the shrines of the Bishops which can get you even further along that tree faster.

[natknut]

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

Originally posted by natknut:

That's just it, I had it so good that the statue was full every few minutes. I skyrocketed through devotion.

I think the difference between you and 300BLK is one waits for the statue to be full and collect all at once versus piece meal collect whenever you're at the camp. Plus there's also smashing the shrines of the Bishops which can get you even further along that tree faster.

Honestly, I was getting it so fast from the shrine I didn't know how to harvest it faster. Every time I turned around it got full. I stopped bothering with all the other sources because of it. It was taking me too long to catch up with building all the new stuff.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by natknut:

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

I think the difference between you and 300BLK is one waits for the statue to be full and collect all at once versus piece meal collect whenever you're at the camp. Plus there's also smashing the shrines of the Bishops which can get you even further along that tree faster.

Honestly, I was getting it so fast from the shrine I didn't know how to harvest it faster. Every time I turned around it got full. I stopped bothering with all the other sources because of it. It was taking me too long to catch up with building all the new stuff.

Your followers when not busy will worship at all available shrines, so if you have a lot of idle followers that's why but there's no real way to PREVENT them from being idle as most activities do eventually end for those followers so they won't have anything to do except worship, you'll know which followers are idle when you see followers dancing around your shrine.

[natknut]

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

Originally posted by natknut:

Honestly, I was getting it so fast from the shrine I didn't know how to harvest it faster. Every time I turned around it got full. I stopped bothering with all the other sources because of it. It was taking me too long to catch up with building all the new stuff.

Your followers when not busy will worship at all available shrines, so if you have a lot of idle followers that's why but there's no real way to PREVENT them from being idle as most activities do eventually end for those followers so they won't have anything to do except worship, you'll know which followers are idle when you see followers dancing around your shrine.

If you set up loggers, miners, and farmers they won't be very idle.

[|STE|HuntertheWolf]

chooo chooo hard mode in bound

[natknut]

Originally posted by HuntertheWolf:

chooo chooo hard mode in bound

Yeah I just switched to the highest mode, the combat is almost identical but the cult is more fun now.

[Cursed Hawkins]

Originally posted by natknut:

Originally posted by Cursed Hawkins:

Your followers when not busy will worship at all available shrines, so if you have a lot of idle followers that's why but there's no real way to PREVENT them from being idle as most activities do eventually end for those followers so they won't have anything to do except worship, you'll know which followers are idle when you see followers dancing around your shrine.

If you set up loggers, miners, and farmers they won't be very idle.

Only one follower can man the lumberyards, mines and farms at a time and in regard to the farms until you get the upgraded farms where followers can harvest the crops you'll still get idle followers around your shrines.

[Sasha Mason]

Not devotion collection time is what would need to change, but rather time it takes to fill it up to the max. Then again, it all comes down to the player. If you spend far more time at your cult, you will max it out before beating most bosses. In my case, despite the crazy fast devotion built up, I wasn't fully maxed out up until I had beaten the last boss.

[flamedance58]

Yah I experienced this too. I only just started the 2nd dungeon and I've almost maxed out both my Lamb and Cult. I enjoyed the base building and all those small things. I almost think I would of enjoyed this game more if the whole dungeon part was linked with the Missionary Building and you only had to go out and fight the bosses yourself XD

[Ninian]

It's not so much that maxes out too soon IMO rather the game doesn't let you go crusading as often in the early game. So the sim side tends to get a lead it doesn't let go of unless you get very good at it.

TBH I would've gated the tiers behind bishop kills, but I get the sense the devs wanted to avoid much as possible the player feeling obligated to play a side of the game they don't feel up to playing.