[Spoilers] Not sure how to open safe in Chapter 3?

[lentinant]

I'm in shipping depot, and now I need to open safe in the office. I suppose, nearby note is the clue, but I have no idea how does it associate with numbers. Am I missing some other note?

[Lanani]

Read the note carefully. If you have clues on, some words will be formatted in bold.

What is left
Later is right
And Hell is back again

The clue is in the letter[s].

[lentinant]

Originally posted by Lanani:

Read the note carefully. If you have clues on, some words will be formatted in bold.

What is left
What is right
And Hell is back again

The clue is in the letter[s].

How exactly am I supposed to get numbers from this?

I've looked it up, and apparently I'm supposed to find the numbers in the cabinet nearby. But the door where the numbers are is just closed for me. And I have no prompt to have it opened.

[lentinant]

Oh, if the word length is somehow indicator of the number, this is probably one of the worst puzzles I've seen in horror games. Proper design is to indicate that the correlation exists - from earlier puzzles or some other examples. Here it is a random new rule. Players can easy assume that the cypher to decode this lies somewhere else and you yet have to find it.

[Eve]

I NEVER would have figured this out. I agree this was a terrible puzzle.

[chickabumpbump]

The amount of letters are the numbers you need.
This was an idiotic puzzle, my friend whose review copy I was using figured it out but I argued it was a terrible puzzle.

Oh and for people in other languages… the code is still the same by the word lengths of course are different! So how on earth they are meant to solve it I don’t know

[Relkya]

This is not a good puzzle at all. I thought the paper told me to count the number of "what" and "later" words popping up in the paper but number of letter? Damn.

[Kiros]

So if I'm reading your hint right, the solution is
4 counter-clockwise, 5 clockwise and 4 counter-clockwise again ?
But that doesn't work, what am I doing wrong? I'm playing in English.

Edit: Okay I got, it's going counter-clockwise, land on 4, then on 5 going clockwise and back to 4 counter-clockwise
Have to agree with the others, this is obtuse. There often seem to be missing a step to onboard the player onto the puzzle logic. I don't mind survival horror games with harder puzzles (Tormented Souls for instance), but the premise has to make sense. There should have been a hint to direct the player on the right path. I looked around the room to see if the words matched to environmental clues. counting the letters I would have done that out of randomness, not logic

[DreamDecker]

Originally posted by Kiros:

So if I'm reading your hint right, the solution is
4 counter-clockwise, 5 clockwise and 4 counter-clockwise again ?
But that doesn't work, what am I doing wrong? I'm playing in English.

I'm not at that part, but Google says you don't do a full rotation between numbers like an actual safe. Just go from 4 to 5 to 4.

[Xtradivarius]

Originally posted by Kiros:

So if I'm reading your hint right, the solution is
4 counter-clockwise, 5 clockwise and 4 counter-clockwise again ?
But that doesn't work, what am I doing wrong? I'm playing in English.

You need to move the dial until you reach the number, it's not the number of moves.
Starting from the default position(XII) of the puzzle:
1- Move counter-clockwise until you reach 4
2- Move clockwise until you reach 5
3- Move counter-clockwise until you reach 4.

Edit: oh you've already solved it, cool.

[Lanani]

Originally posted by Kiros:

So if I'm reading your hint right, the solution is
4 counter-clockwise, 5 clockwise and 4 counter-clockwise again ?
But that doesn't work, what am I doing wrong? I'm playing in English.

Been a while since I've played this particular puzzle, but if I remember correctly it's not 4 clicks left, 5 clicks right, 4 clicks left, but rather left until you hit the number 4, right until you hit the number 5, left until you get to number 4"

[WallaWalla09]

Chiming in that this puzzle was indeed too obtuse. So far, they've all been pretty fair up to this point in the game...but this one was just poorly thought out (in my opinion at least).

[zuppaclub]

lol funny enough I thought the numbers are on the big map in the office because there are numbers on the map.

imo they should rework the wording / the puzzle.

[Karma]

lmao i just went left right back again (left) then i got it when it had gone almost a circle

[UK-player]

OK... this puzzle officially RUINED the game for me. I was really enjoying it up until this point. Of course I found the 4-5-4'solution' - I understood I had to count the number of letters in each word and that would be the combo. But then when I went to the safe, I turned the dial 4 clicks anti-clockwise, 5 clicks clockwise and 4 clicks anti clockwise...

LIKE ANY NORMAL SAFE !!!!!

...But no, this had to be to an actual number on the safe, which I never got. So dumb.

I had to go look it up because I thought the game was broken. TERRIBLE !!!

[Donitz]

In most puzzle games when I'm stuck at a puzzle, it is almost always because I am overthinking it. This was the rare exception where I did not. I was close to the solution, but I thought the solution could not possibly be that obtuse. They would have made it a lot more obvious if it was the case, I thought.