Was hoping the reviews would be better by now.

[Cadaver]

Why can't we have nice things?

[renton212]

I know, I've played every Civ since 2 and keep checking back here to see if "Civ7 is good yet" - *shuffles away*

[Cadaver]

Originally posted by renton212:

I know, I've played every Civ since 2 and keep checking back here to see if "Civ7 is good yet" - *shuffles away*

Civ2 was when I got into playing it as well, I thought it was a video game version of the avalon hill civilization board game.

I will now also shuffle away.

[GlenDronach]

Checking in now and then too...Still remains deleted in my library...As a Civ player since the first Civ,,,hey Firaxis!Make a remake of the greatest Civ ever..Civ 4!!Give that for free to us loyal and true Civgamers!!As a gesture of good will after giving us this crap...AND calling it Civ!!!!One good thing happened because of this thou...Im once again playing Civ 4 with Realism Invictus mod..AMAZING!!The closest to the ultimate Civ!

[MrSogard]

If you are so happy with your experience, why are you posting here which involves discussions of Civ VII. Why rain on this parade?

Civilization is a remarkable series spanning several decades.

Enjoy your game and please post in the proper forums instead of trying to rain lemons on anything else?

Sounds like schadenfreude to me. You sure you are not German? No self respecting Norwegian would post such drivel.

[Mr. Man!]

no amount of patches will fix a fundamental gameplay design problem.

[Rhapsody]

You can drop the "we" from there, or at least define it better.

[Andarc]

Originally posted by Mr. Man!:

no amount of patches will fix a fundamental gameplay design problem.

I have been saying this since release but the fanboys just refuse to understand the perspective of anyone else. to be frank it is cool that the new gen of civ player has something they really like but a lot of us were waiting almost 10 years for an the devs to improve upon 6 and not only did they fail to improve they took several steps back and delivered a product that felt rushed despite nearly a decade between 6 and 7. Pricing model is predatory, game is incomplete(where is our last era?) and tons of basic mechanics that should have been in day one are either just recently being addressed or are just being ignored. On top of all of that the core gameplay of this iteration of civ is just not fun and imo era changes are a big part of that for a lot of people. even if the fanboys dont want to hear it.

[Nemo]

Deleted too, and randomly checking in to see if the hot mess has been fixed .... so far ... nothing ... such a disappointment.

I am genuinely happy that some people like it, but it seems that most of the fan base moved back to Civ 5 or 6 .... How embarrassing .... firaxis ... you severely damaged the IP

[geas]

You and me both
My Civ6 review is uber-positive, my Civ7 review is uber-negative and further review shelved until next major patch.

(not that I am any real authority for reviews, I have only reviewed 2 games on steam. Civ6 and Civ7)

[Rhapsody]

Originally posted by geas:

(not that I am any real authority for reviews, I have only reviewed 2 games on steam. Civ6 and Civ7)

Since I was able to do so, I went ahead and see what you wrote... And it's incredibly wholesome for both six and seven despite the negative recommendation for the latter. I wish everyone could write and play like you have done, then I would never say that user reviews are BS'ing about things.

[SpitfireMkVIII]

Just out of curiosity, does anybody know the number of new, positive reviews it would take to move Civ7 from 48% to 70%? It's currently sitting at 31k reviews, and this is assuming none of those get changed.

[RedLabel]

Originally posted by SpitfireMkVIII:

Just out of curiosity, does anybody know the number of new, positive reviews it would take to move Civ7 from 48% to 70%? It's currently sitting at 31k reviews, and this is assuming none of those get changed.

They would need 23,060 positive reviews to get to 70%, assuming no one leaves a negative from this point forward and no one changes their review. If the sales to review ratio is 50 sales per 1 review, we're looking at an additional 1,153,000 copies sold to generate these reviews and reach 70%. It's going to be a very long road to 70%, if we ever get there at all. Next expansion needs to be an absolute hit, they should market it as a relaunch and put in a "Classic Mode" as well.

[ParabolaWaVe]

Not just the reviews are mid to bad, the player count is dismal. The largest 30 day average drop among the entire franchise (-14.9%). Now it has half the current players of Civ 5 and its fast approaching Civ 4 numbers.

Paradox and Stardock games are rising in player count, while Firaxis games are down. Players are actually starting to migrate from the series.

[z3rk]

Nothing short of miracle would have to happen to turn it over now, and let's be honest no amount of polish can fix that either.

Game is not bad because it's buggy or under-developed. These things can be fixed, with time the bugs can be removed and features added.

Here, mechanics, the core is broken and there is no fixing that with patches or DLCs and there is a tangible evidence for that.

There were 2 major patches that fixed things in the game, there were QoL improvements and even requested things like autoexplore, one more turn etc. And? Nothing changed, the downfall was not turned over, maybe slowed down but there were no spikes in number of players, no movements on 'top sellers' and certainly, no surge of positive reviews (yeah we know it was released everywhere but civ is and was, mainly on PC and that is still the case).

Ofc there are people who like this game, nothing wrong with that but it seems they are not majority and no big company cares for anything other than the 'big buck'

[jorgen_cab]

I would not say the game in and of itself is bad or broken, the game on it's own are a decent game.

The issue is that it feels like a mobile/console game and the core mechanics have changed in a way that a large group of people (me included) will not come back to this version of Civilization. It does not matter what they add or fix, they core will never change.

If the next installment of Civilization is a console game I will not even bother looking twice at it either no matter if they change the core mechanics back to the old version of Civilization.

There just are too many other games built for PC that I can play and spend my time on than this mess.