Patch any good?

[Martin]

Opinions on the patch?

[MrSogard]

The Civ VII patch is in its early stages of release but so far, I like what I see and the addition of the Pangaea plus map was very nice. Not enough time with it to really understand all the effects of the updates, but so far no issues that I have seen.

We shall have to see how the changes effect game play.

So far, so good.

Good Gaming!

[katzenkrimis]

The patch completely changed the game.

It's now one of the best video games ever made. The complete opposite of what the killjoys and defeatists have been saying about it.

Kidding.

Remember. You've got two years.

Civilization VI was released in October of 2016.

The first expansion, Rise and Fall, was released in February of 2018.

The second expansion, Gathering Storm, was released in February of 2019.

16 months + 12 months = 28 months. Two years and four months to cross the finish line.

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Civilization VII was released in February of 2025.

You've got two years and one month before this game is back atop the Civilization podium.

If you don't stay healthy, you won't live to see the finished product.

That is a fact.

[nowhere man]

Originally posted by katzenkrimis:

If you don't stay healthy, you won't live to see the finished product.

And of course, there are a million other, more important things to stay healthy for than for a horrible game made by a greedy, decadent company.

[Martin]

I expect decent games on release day, not 2 years later.

The patch.. Pangaea map is nice, esp if you can down the number of players to 5. Spotted loads of bugs, mostly the ai not expanding beyond 1 city in early game. Ai is still declaring war to break trading with player, they still spam you with attempts to wreck your influence there are more aggressive cs, the cs are not scouting much, scouts often just stand outside their cities.

Parchacuti was +5 neutral and denounced me.. now I expected this of Ben Franklin who was -35.. But not from the guy I was sending trade routes to. The -10 for touching borders is a stupid thing as is the "built too close" they built next to me and they hate ME for being built next to.. it's bs diplomacy.. atrocious game design. I'm playing a game for 8-10 hours, hundreds of turns, I don't need this level of frustration, grind and tedium.

I should not be getting hate for killing civs that declare war on me.. that's entirely on them. But the one thing that really got me was the insanely woke statement made on the first crisis point..You're ascended, why not us? Well that's obvious, your civ hasn't worked for it, that's why you're still in the stone age. This idea that because a given race is superior to others, does not give those inferior races a right to demand more from us. We are superior for a reason.

If you want to rise up and be better you have to work for it, that's a fact of life. Nothing is free. And trying to foist your inferior communistic political agendas on to your player base is wholly unacceptable.

Game crashed on startup twice, sound was broken once, The continual floods.. are annoying, there's no notification of being attacked.. I'm not sure what bugs they think they fixed.. but they've got a long way to go.

If Civ 6 looked as good as Civ 7 does.. they'd never have needed to make another civ. All they had to do was update the textures and keep the gameplay.. instead they sold us a wrecked game and had the gall to sit there and try to make out it was good.

The little sounds on selection of research are nice touches and the overall general quality of the game is excellent. But they really need to work on the ai, on pathing and the general flow of the gameplay itself. Especially the diplomacy.

Imho.

[jariel]

at this point it seems that the bigest change was that pangea+ map and it was a very nice change, the map changes the game a lot, gives it much more action and much less time to strategise, however the rest of the patch seems prety thin, few meaningful leader changes but at least i cant see much more.

[bengtarnenielsen]

After the patch - the game vil not launch on my pc. It fails during loading.....
I give up and return to Civ6

[SLG]

I like that it changed some of the UI's. For example, the pack and unpack options for commandeers are now separate from the other options.

[Rhapsody]

Pangaea Plus looks like a version of Pangaea even I'd play. I don't really have the time to check things out though, with everything else releasing and updating just in time for summer...

[Spiderbyte]

Originally posted by MrSogard:

The Civ VII patch is in its early stages of release but so far, I like what I see and the addition of the Pangaea plus map was very nice. Not enough time with it to really understand all the effects of the updates, but so far no issues that I have seen.

We shall have to see how the changes effect game play.

So far, so good.

Good Gaming!

The game is BORING. The DLC content is NOT worth the cost & half the leaders are at best, forgettable.

The folks who keep patching this game keep forgetting to make the damn game enjoyable.

[z3rk]

isn't it kind of amazing?
the very same people that boasted "don't like it don't play, there won't be pangea map because mechanics don't allow it" are now first in line to say how good of an idea it is to actually implement things people were complaining about.
Pepperidge farm remembers.

[Caerimonia]

Originally posted by z3rk:

isn't it kind of amazing?
the very same people that boasted "don't like it don't play, there won't be pangea map because mechanics don't allow it" are now first in line to say how good of an idea it is to actually implement things people were complaining about.
Pepperidge farm remembers.

When Civ 8 finally comes out, they're going to join the critics and destroy this game in the forums.

[RedLabel]

Originally posted by Caerimonia:

Originally posted by z3rk:

isn't it kind of amazing?
the very same people that boasted "don't like it don't play, there won't be pangea map because mechanics don't allow it" are now first in line to say how good of an idea it is to actually implement things people were complaining about.
Pepperidge farm remembers.

When Civ 8 finally comes out, they're going to join the critics and destroy this game in the forums.

True, it's already happening. If you look at the post history of the OP of this thread, you'll see a ferocious defender of this game (page 24) slowly but surely realize this game actually sucks. Now he has seen the light and changed his review of the game to thumbs down.

For example, he had previously posted this:

Originally posted by Martin:

Over 150 hours so far. Yes there are some pretty glaring issues, but there is absolutely no doubt in my mind, that 7 utterly and completely trashes everything that came before. It hands down slaughters every 4x game on the market.

[Caerimonia]

Yeah, the blind fanboyism was there at the beginning. Still, its not easy to admit one was wrong and having a change of mind. So I can respect that. I guess it was hard for many to be honest with themselves and see the mess for what it is. And still is. Its hard because Firaxis had very high prestige as a developer, and has never really fallen to this low before.

Most of the wave of negative recent reviews in Steam, seem to be coming from players approving of the game in the very beginning, but then having more experience with the game systems and updating their reviews. The story of the OP is the same for lots of disappointed players.

[RedLabel]

Agreed, plenty of goodwill was burned. I'm glad people can see it and maybe as they play more they can see the cracks in the game and realize "Wait, this is actually not fun at X hours anymore." The new car smell might be wearing off for some, replayability taking a hit and the reviews continuing their downward trend as people change their reviews.

[Caerimonia]

Maybe its close to find itself a bottom in player reviews, can't go down forever. The ratings are already horrible, though. Going up from here is no success story. Civ 7 is truly and objectively the worst reviewed 4X in Steam right now.