Sid Meier's Civilization VII

Sid Meier's Civilization VII

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Uso May 6 @ 4:17am
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Black Female Genghis Khan
Cultural marxism rearing its head once again or is this just a very big misunderstanding?
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The Doctor May 6 @ 7:52pm 
Who is Melvin 392? That would be "you', the player - the overseer who directs the pawns to fight for 136 years to create the land of Puddington. "One more turn! One more turn!'

The player is not the black lady on the horse nor any of the other characters but the 'overseer' whose name they venerate.

I suspect many of you who are angry about this saw the 'Black Genghis Khan' title before watching which coloured your perception of the game and you only saw what you expected to see. I had a similar "WT actual F!!!" moment when it started but I watched on and smirked a bit.

It's a joke and not a particularly unfunny one either. It's extremely far from being a smart move though. I have no idea why they did this
xHans May 6 @ 8:06pm 
When a Civilization fanboy tries to critique the game they try REALLY HARD to not add DEI into the discussion like with Harriet tubman and going against machiavelli's politics in his traits as obvious woke examples but this ♥♥♥♥ keeps being shoved down their throats.

Keep fencesitting, a lot more cultural marxism enrichment coming your way.
Last edited by xHans; May 6 @ 8:06pm
egg fu May 6 @ 8:33pm 
Originally posted by xHans:
Keep fencesitting, a lot more cultural marxism enrichment coming your way.
your lot been saying this for 60+ years, still disappointed it hasn't happened yet :(
Cunin May 6 @ 10:03pm 
Looks like they have removed it on their official site.

Bubble met reality and the usual happened, next will be bubble made excuses of why it was everyone's but their own fault.

Time to vote with your wallet and never buy any of their products again,

Plenty of companies that managed to read the room and decided to stick to making games
Last edited by Cunin; May 6 @ 10:16pm
Originally posted by Howard Roark:
Originally posted by DSL52 GR1M4CE™:
This game is a woke joke & is about as unfunny as you'd imagine...!!
Hope it cripples & shuts down the studio & everyone gets fired - they deserve nothing less.
Woke needs to be punished without remorse until it's completely stamped out of existence
I'm no fan of DEI or any of that stuff, but this is a dangerous attitude. Wishing failure and unemployment on people who disagree with you makes it almost impossible for people to work together. It makes your side seem unreasonable and makes people on the fence less supportive of your position. Also, it justifies people doing the same in reverse. For example, someone could take that exact sentence you wrote and replace woke with religion. Which I hope we'd all agree would be a bad sentiment.

A successful society is one in which people with different beliefs can live together. When societies abandon that principle, bad things always follow. Once countrymen hate one another we get conflict and oppression, and occasionally even the fall of entire nations.

It's fine to dislike woke, but it's bad to hate the people who support it. As many Christians say; hate the sin, not the sinner.

You can't live together with the woke. They invade every hobby, culture, and space (The I in DEI stands for inclusion) and try to change it. If you don't comply, they will cancel you and try to destroy your career.
Uso May 6 @ 10:46pm 
Originally posted by Rune:
The developer seems to be race-baiting for attention and sympathy sales. It's really quite astonishing.
Basically this
Martian May 6 @ 10:48pm 
Originally posted by chaosphoenix440:
Originally posted by Howard Roark:
I'm no fan of DEI or any of that stuff, but this is a dangerous attitude. Wishing failure and unemployment on people who disagree with you makes it almost impossible for people to work together. It makes your side seem unreasonable and makes people on the fence less supportive of your position. Also, it justifies people doing the same in reverse. For example, someone could take that exact sentence you wrote and replace woke with religion. Which I hope we'd all agree would be a bad sentiment.

A successful society is one in which people with different beliefs can live together. When societies abandon that principle, bad things always follow. Once countrymen hate one another we get conflict and oppression, and occasionally even the fall of entire nations.

It's fine to dislike woke, but it's bad to hate the people who support it. As many Christians say; hate the sin, not the sinner.

You can't live together with the woke. They invade every hobby, culture, and space (The I in DEI stands for inclusion) and try to change it. If you don't comply, they will cancel you and try to destroy your career.

Yep look at women's sports. The woke mob is demanding inclusion in what's supposed to be an exclusive club for WOMEN ONLY. Pushing many women even lesbians towards conservatism. Lgbt is even demanding lesbians go into heterosexual relationships with trans women i.e biological males or be called bigoted. The problem with the concept of us all working together is there's still only one leader. Only one central idea we're all forced to follow. That's just not realistic.
Ravachol May 6 @ 11:28pm 
Originally posted by chaosphoenix440:
If you don't comply, they will cancel you and try to destroy your career.
Uh, the irony.
jariel May 7 @ 12:50am 
Originally posted by chaosphoenix440:
Originally posted by Howard Roark:
I'm no fan of DEI or any of that stuff, but this is a dangerous attitude. Wishing failure and unemployment on people who disagree with you makes it almost impossible for people to work together. It makes your side seem unreasonable and makes people on the fence less supportive of your position. Also, it justifies people doing the same in reverse. For example, someone could take that exact sentence you wrote and replace woke with religion. Which I hope we'd all agree would be a bad sentiment.

A successful society is one in which people with different beliefs can live together. When societies abandon that principle, bad things always follow. Once countrymen hate one another we get conflict and oppression, and occasionally even the fall of entire nations.

It's fine to dislike woke, but it's bad to hate the people who support it. As many Christians say; hate the sin, not the sinner.

You can't live together with the woke. They invade every hobby, culture, and space (The I in DEI stands for inclusion) and try to change it. If you don't comply, they will cancel you and try to destroy your career.

You right wingers are so weak, whine and whine, you dont see the push and pull in it? females still dont have the same rights as man in most of the world and even in the "free" west you dont have to go back more than 100-200 years and women didnt have right to vote and if they wanted to go to the next town by them self's they knew that they would at lest get some extra sausage in the way with all the majo... you ppl created the woke, just like they created you, but who are most pathetic those who complain about real violence and oppression or those who whine about some commercial?

You know you can do all the games you want to, and ad as many hair.. a.. men in them as you will, and they can make jeebus black and a chick if they so choose, they or you have no obligation to do as someone else wants to, it still is a free world, as long as you ppl from both sides ruin it for us all.
SeiFeR May 7 @ 3:13am 
This woke IP is so done.
Originally posted by jariel:
Originally posted by chaosphoenix440:

You can't live together with the woke. They invade every hobby, culture, and space (The I in DEI stands for inclusion) and try to change it. If you don't comply, they will cancel you and try to destroy your career.

You right wingers are so weak, whine and whine, you dont see the push and pull in it? females still dont have the same rights as man in most of the world and even in the "free" west you dont have to go back more than 100-200 years and women didnt have right to vote and if they wanted to go to the next town by them self's they knew that they would at lest get some extra sausage in the way with all the majo... you ppl created the woke, just like they created you, but who are most pathetic those who complain about real violence and oppression or those who whine about some commercial?

You know you can do all the games you want to, and ad as many hair.. a.. men in them as you will, and they can make jeebus black and a chick if they so choose, they or you have no obligation to do as someone else wants to, it still is a free world, as long as you ppl from both sides ruin it for us all.

Funny how folks like you tend to pick Christians when you sperg out like this. So you're all for gender and race swapping Jesus, so I assume to remain intellectually honest and consistent you'll also push for a black female Prophet Mohamed displayed in media, right?

RIGHT?
jariel May 7 @ 3:24am 
i give 0 fu.. if some one does black chikc mohammed, actually would found that somewhat funny and brave.. and learn to read, i didnt say anything about black chick jeebus, being for or against it, even than i also would found that somewhat funny and brave.. what i was talking about was right for intellectual property, that the game is theirs, they dont have any obligation to please or serve any one, and you allso have just the same rights to do what ever kind of game, song, whatever you want.

And i must ad, just to be a jerk, cos i dont give f... about any religion, easter bunny or other fictional savor (howewer i am strongly for any ones right, to believe what they want) that if we were historically acurate, jeebus wasnt caucasian, white, he was brown, if he existed, what i actually do believe that he might, as jeebus was very common name and preaching teachers was allso wery common at the time.
Last edited by jariel; May 7 @ 3:37am
Waiting for them to unironically have an image of Idi Amin as a Scottish King in an upcoming DLC...
Howard Roark May 7 @ 5:08am 
Originally posted by Greyhawk The Angry:
Funny how folks like you tend to pick Christians when you sperg out like this. So you're all for gender and race swapping Jesus, so I assume to remain intellectually honest and consistent you'll also push for a black female Prophet Mohamed displayed in media, right?

RIGHT?
Honestly, I'm not a fan of race swapping historical figures, but it's not something I really care about either.

However, I find it funny that you use Jesus as an example of race swapping being bad. Since the images of Jesus most of us are familiar with is literally race swapped. Assuming Jesus was an actual person, he lived in the middle east as part of a family that had lived there for thousands of years; he was unquestionably of middle eastern ethnicity. Yet the vast majority of art depicts him as white.

Given that you are so against race swapping people, I'm sure you are a strong advocate against a white Jesus and want him returned to his original race.

Right?
Martian May 7 @ 5:36am 
Originally posted by Howard Roark:
Originally posted by Greyhawk The Angry:
Funny how folks like you tend to pick Christians when you sperg out like this. So you're all for gender and race swapping Jesus, so I assume to remain intellectually honest and consistent you'll also push for a black female Prophet Mohamed displayed in media, right?

RIGHT?
Honestly, I'm not a fan of race swapping historical figures, but it's not something I really care about either.

However, I find it funny that you use Jesus as an example of race swapping being bad. Since the images of Jesus most of us are familiar with is literally race swapped. Assuming Jesus was an actual person, he lived in the middle east as part of a family that had lived there for thousands of years; he was unquestionably of middle eastern ethnicity. Yet the vast majority of art depicts him as white.

Given that you are so against race swapping people, I'm sure you are a strong advocate against a white Jesus and want him returned to his original race.

Right?
Nice try. White Jesus evolved over 1,500 years of European art—not a Netflix boardroom’s DEI quota. Early Christians (Roman Empire) depicted Jesus as a Mediterranean man (olive skin, curly hair).
As Christianity spread to Europe, artists naturally painted him to resemble their own people (just as Chinese Christians later painted him as East Asian). Key points: Buddha in Japan looks Japanese.
Virgin Mary in Ethiopia looks African.
Saint George in Russia looks Slavic.
Meanwhile, your side turns actual white historical figures (Vikings, Brits) black overnight for propaganda. And you still won’t touch Muhammad. Keep pretending this is about ‘accuracy’—we see the game.
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