The Civ8 discussion thread gave me an idea. Just hear me out........Civ 2 Remastered

[markygras]

I mean, Age of Empires 2 got a 4k HD remaster update. So how about a remake of Civ 2 that keeps most everything in, but rather than sprites gives us updated graphics, music, etc.
Heck, lets even get some hd videos of the advisors.

Maybe include a few "updated" design changes (minor ones) but leave it at that.

[Rhapsody]

Sounds like too much work for too little DLC sales.

[RedLabel]

Given the low Civ 7 player counts, it would make financial sense for Firaxis to start making and releasing DLC for Civ 6, maybe even Civ 5. Could even remaster an older title and they're back in business, or they could release what the overwhelming majority of the playerbase wants, a "Classic Mode", but as soon as I say it people say "Go back to playing Civ [insert number here]. Oh well, I guess making a "Classic Mode" would require some level of introspection to admit the concepts of Civ 7 were not good and well... I guess we can't have that now can we? Skip to Civ 8 then.

Start Civ 8 with a fresh crew, keep the art team though, they did good work.

[Rhapsody]

Originally posted by RedLabel:

releasing DLC for Civ 6, maybe even Civ 5.

Now there's a joke if I've ever read one on these forums...

[Theo]

The problem with big companies with lots of investors is that every project they make needs to have huge potential profits. That's why they are locked into making large expensive projects

[DadouXIII]

I'd love a Civ3 remaster!

[MIND__LINK]

OP is on to something here. I'd buy it.

[The Doctor]

I don't think I could play a HD reboot of Civ 2 because there were no cultural borders in that game. Other 'players' could walk armies right up to your cities and then DoW on you.

Civ 2 was my first Civ and for sure I played hundreds of hours of it but the Civ we're playing today has more of Civ 3's DNA in it than Civ 2's. I would actually pay for a HD reboot of Civ 3 as it was the version I played the most. I still think it's the best of the bunch as it retained much of what was good with Civ 2 and added culture and cultural borders to the mix. The unit models and animations were top-notch for their time too and as for the music ...

But none of this is going to happen as almost none of the folks who are angry with Civ 7 would buy it. They would look at it and just say something like'lazy, low-effort cash grab!' or find some other justification not to buy it. Of course it wouldn't be $10 or any sort of price that these folks would pay either.

[markygras]

Originally posted by The Doctor:

But none of this is going to happen as almost none of the folks who are angry with Civ 7 would buy it. They would look at it and just say something like'lazy, low-effort cash grab!' or find some other justification not to buy it. Of course it wouldn't be $10 or any sort of price that these folks would pay either.

A lot of us would buy it in a heart-beat. And like I said, they could make "some" adjustments to allow for culture.

Most everyone is upset with the state of Civ 7 for one reason or another, but anyone who has read Sid's memoir recognizes how much that title deviated from the proven methodology that previous titles stuck to.

- Have an established lead designer who wasn't a lead on a previous civ entry
- Give the expansion pack work to someone young and hungry to prove themselves and maybe they can be the lead on the next full entry

Instead we get Ed Beach Management Game 2 (TM) with all of its unnecessary guardrails.

So how about we get some programmer at Firaxis to focus on updating Civ 2 to a modern system spec and see how it turns out. Looking at the current player count charts, Firaxis isn't on a good trajectory.

But what do I know? According to you I'm an AI.

[The Doctor]

Originally posted by markygras:

Originally posted by The Doctor:

But none of this is going to happen as almost none of the folks who are angry with Civ 7 would buy it. They would look at it and just say something like'lazy, low-effort cash grab!' or find some other justification not to buy it. Of course it wouldn't be $10 or any sort of price that these folks would pay either.

A lot of us would buy it in a heart-beat. And like I said, they could make "some" adjustments to allow for culture.

Most everyone is upset with the state of Civ 7 for one reason or another, but anyone who has read Sid's memoir recognizes how much that title deviated from the proven methodology that previous titles stuck to.

- Have an established lead designer who wasn't a lead on a previous civ entry
- Give the expansion pack work to someone young and hungry to prove themselves and maybe they can be the lead on the next full entry

Instead we get Ed Beach Management Game 2 (TM) with all of its unnecessary guardrails.

So how about we get some programmer at Firaxis to focus on updating Civ 2 to a modern system spec and see how it turns out. Looking at the current player count charts, Firaxis isn't on a good trajectory.

But what do I know? According to you I'm an AI.

I'm not getting into another pointless debate with you about a hypothetical. Of course some people would buy it but I think I'm reading the room here better than you. If they want to do this, I'm fine with it but, as I said, I'd rather it was a reboot of Civ 3 so if anyone 'up there' really is considering this, let it be so.

I haven't accused you of being an AI. Perhaps you're confused about this post with a double quote?

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1295660/discussions/0/591762405949772202/?ctp=17#c600775936314447308

He was suggesting to you that my post was generated by an AI.

[markygras]

Originally posted by The Doctor:

I haven't accused you of being an AI. Perhaps you're confused about this post with a double quote?

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1295660/discussions/0/591762405949772202/?ctp=17#c600775936314447308

He was suggesting to you that my post was generated by an AI.

Oh sorry, I got confused by the post

[The Doctor]

Originally posted by markygras:

Originally posted by The Doctor:

I haven't accused you of being an AI. Perhaps you're confused about this post with a double quote?

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1295660/discussions/0/591762405949772202/?ctp=17#c600775936314447308

He was suggesting to you that my post was generated by an AI.

Oh sorry, I got confused by the post

No worries.

Cheers

[Aluminum Elite Master]

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

Sounds like too much work for too little DLC sales.

Yep.

Civ 7 is shaping up to be a DLC simulator, with $30 for 2 leader/4 civ packs. That wouldn't be possible for a remaster of Civ 2, unless a great deal was changed to allow for more DLC to exist with it.

Now, the one I could see it working for is Civ 5. A remaster or remake of Civ 5, with all the DLC also being remastered, sounds like something that financially might be viable.

[The Doctor]

Originally posted by Aluminum Elite Master:

Originally posted by Rhapsody:

Sounds like too much work for too little DLC sales.

Yep.

Civ 7 is shaping up to be a DLC simulator, with $30 for 2 leader/4 civ packs. That wouldn't be possible for a remaster of Civ 2, unless a great deal was changed to allow for more DLC to exist with it.

Now, the one I could see it working for is Civ 5. A remaster or remake of Civ 5, with all the DLC also being remastered, sounds like something that financially might be viable.

I agree with that. From a financial point of view, Civ V would seem to be the best choice for a reboot as it seems to be a lot of people's 'first Civ game'.

While I think 3 and 4 are the pinnacle of the franchise, 5 was a much more financially successful game. It's my least favourite Civ by far but I'll admit that it had the best music of them all.