Great Britain a modern age civ?

[Raziel Kaine]

This confuses me. Sure Britain is important to the modern age but its not only even more important to the exploration age but it founded many or even most of the modernnage nations that will eventually come.

Eg. Of how weird this is, you will have great Britain who founded America in the modern age with America?! What?

In future you will potentially have australia, Canada, new Zealand etc. All at the same era and will miss use of the British naval power they are so famous for in the age of sail, challenged the power of the Spanish treasure fleets had their own east India trading companies and so much more.

Just so confusing

[Cryten]

No doubt they will sell us a exploration age Britain like they sold us the industrial age Britain.

[Darkboss]

Great Britain, Spain, Portugal and Netherlands were the main Civs that marked the Exploration Era

But they want to milk some Civs as much as they can, thats why they will release several Great Britains, the Exploration one wil probably come later when they need more money

[Sylterix]

I imagine that they will use England as an Exploration age nation down the road.

[lpgaming1995]

Britain also did industrialisation which started the modern age.

[Rhapsody]

Originally posted by Raziel Kaine:

In future you will potentially have australia, Canada, new Zealand etc. All at the same era and will miss use of the British naval power they are so famous for in the age of sail, challenged the power of the Spanish treasure fleets had their own east India trading companies and so much more.

Just so confusing

If you think civilizations escaping their historically accurate boundaries makes the game confusing, why are you playing Civilization in the first place?

Originally posted by Darkboss:

But they want to milk some Civs as much as they can, thats why they will release several Great Britains, the Exploration one wil probably come later when they need more money

If the price is right and the content is good, I don't really see an issue with that. Paradox gets away with it, why shouldn't Firaxis and 2K? Not that I want any more mini-DLC and especially microtransations in Civ, but that's the lay of the land these days. If it looks bad, don't buy it.

Also, India and China are already split over the three existing ages into three civilizations. Why shouldn't England/Britain/United Kingdom?

[claudemac24hrs]

Originally posted by Darkboss:

But they want to milk some Civs as much as they
Also, India and China are already split over the three existing ages into three civilizations. Why shouldn't England/Britain/United Kingdom?

Civs should be divided in ages like India and China. Japan would have Yayoi (Antiquity)/Edo (Exploration)/Meiji (Modern). This should be Celts (Antiquity)/Normans (Exploration)/Great Britain (Modern), and for France that would be Gauls (Antiquity)/Franks (Exploration)/Imperial French (Modern).

I also think that Vikings will be included and to be divided by age: Norsemen (Antiquity)/Poland (Exploration)/Sweden (Modern).

[Skull]

It would make sense as England was medieval based and Great Britain was rather modern.

[Abrexus]

Originally posted by Cryten:

No doubt they will sell us a exploration age Britain like they sold us the industrial age Britain.

How much you wanna bet they are planning to add more ages as part of an expansion or DLC you have to pay for? Want the nuclear age? $60!

[Larkis]

Britain was very important for industry. They was an important player in WW1 and was a very great player in WW2 with its also iconic spitfire. I can understand why they put them in the modern age. But i agree they could also be great in the exploration age. But i think they miss special units/buildings for that era.

[Cryten]

Originally posted by Larkis:

Britain was very important for industry. They was an important player in WW1 and was a very great player in WW2 with its also iconic spitfire. I can understand why they put them in the modern age. But i agree they could also be great in the exploration age. But i think they miss special units/buildings for that era.

A lot of exploration age icons could be used. For example the Royal Navy Dockyards , HMS Intrepid, the Red Coats, The Globe Theater, and The East India Trade Company.

[RedPhoenix]

Originally posted by Raziel Kaine:

This confuses me. Sure Britain is important to the modern age but its not only even more important to the exploration age but it founded many or even most of the modernnage nations that will eventually come.

Eg. Of how weird this is, you will have great Britain who founded America in the modern age with America?! What?

In future you will potentially have australia, Canada, new Zealand etc. All at the same era and will miss use of the British naval power they are so famous for in the age of sail, challenged the power of the Spanish treasure fleets had their own east India trading companies and so much more.

Just so confusing

britain didnt excist at start of exploration age yet. they have normans in the game, which is exploration age england. think you got your history wrong here :)

I wouldnt mind them adding a post norman invasion england as a separate entity though for exploration.

[The Doctor]

It's a tricky one because the Exploration era is when the New World is discovered and colonies are established by Spain, Portugal, France and Britain. Scotland even tried to get in on the act but the expensive failure of their colony led to the Act of Union which wasn't passed until 1707 so GB didn't really exist until the very end of this period. It was very much England at this point. But we don't have England ... yet.

Great Britain should be a major player in the era where railways are researched (because, duh!) and factories built (again, duh!)

From a historical game viewpoint it's all a bit up-in-the-air and a bit of a mess because I'd have had Germany in the modern era and not Prussia although I'm happy to have Prussia for sure. but they didn't build the Stuka so it is hard to make perfect sense of it.

[RedPhoenix]

Originally posted by Cryten:

Originally posted by Larkis:

Britain was very important for industry. They was an important player in WW1 and was a very great player in WW2 with its also iconic spitfire. I can understand why they put them in the modern age. But i agree they could also be great in the exploration age. But i think they miss special units/buildings for that era.

A lot of exploration age icons could be used. For example the Royal Navy Dockyards , HMS Intrepid, the Red Coats, The Globe Theater, and The East India Trade Company.

in this game redcoats are a modern age unit, modern age starts at imperial age.

ingame exploration ends with basic musket units, ie. real life 1600, 150 years before redcoats.

[RedPhoenix]

Originally posted by The Doctor:

It's a tricky one because the Exploration era is when the New World is discovered and colonies are established by Spain, Portugal, France and Britain. Scotland even tried to get in on the act but the expensive failure of their colony led to the Act of Union which wasn't passed until 1707 so GB didn't really exist until the very end of this period. It was very much England at this point. But we don't have England ... yet.

Great Britain should be a major player in the era where railways are researched (because, duh!) and factories built (again, duh!)

From a historical game viewpoint it's all a bit up-in-the-air and a bit of a mess because I'd have had Germany in the modern era and not Prussia although I'm happy to have Prussia for sure. but they didn't build the Stuka so it is hard to make perfect sense of it.

there was no germany at start of modern era historically, only prussia - who founded germany. so makes perfect sense.

be cool to have holy roman empire as the other part of germany later though.

exploration age start england also was norman england, part of normandy. so there is norman civ for this.

[Inkidu]

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Originally posted by Raziel Kaine:

This confuses me. Sure Britain is important to the modern age but its not only even more important to the exploration age but it founded many or even most of the modernnage nations that will eventually come.

Eg. Of how weird this is, you will have great Britain who founded America in the modern age with America?! What?

In future you will potentially have australia, Canada, new Zealand etc. All at the same era and will miss use of the British naval power they are so famous for in the age of sail, challenged the power of the Spanish treasure fleets had their own east India trading companies and so much more.

Just so confusing

Great Britain was Founded in 1707 and the US coming less than a century later is also a modern entity. It's just some fudging by the nature of the game. It's almost like Civ is not meant to perfectly recreate the scope of history.