Why is this game "woke"?

[Luritutus]

Maybe I just missed something, but what aspects makes this game "woke"?

This is not a troll post, I have better things to do

[VulpineMachine]

Who declared it to be "woke"?

[Luritutus]

Originally posted by VulpineMachine:

Who declared it to be "woke"?

When I use the search for "woke", theres lot of threads and posts

[Oaks]

Harriet Tubman was recently announced to be a playable leader in the game, which caused much pearl clutching and fits of rage.

[DonPablo]

There are much more Americans who are ahead of her and deserve to be in the game as great leaders. This is just a woke reason

[Steve]

Those poor dozens of people.

Anyway, they should do a Celebrity Civs edition. Which fandom will attract the most tourists? Will it be Bollywood legend Shah Rukh Khan? Chinese film superstar Bruce Lee? Or pop music icon Taylor Swift?

(The sad part is that this could probably work so yeah, go for it Firaxis, make some heads explode)

[Clown Reemus]

Originally posted by DonPablo:

There are much more Americans who are ahead of her and deserve to be in the game as great leaders. This is just a woke reason

Without having proper falsifiable criteria of what makes a given historical figure worthy of being a videogame leader, your statement lacks any credibility.

[Oaks]

What's interesting about it is many of the people who popped up to bemoan the wokeness were people who never engaged with this forum before. These people must be informed of this through different sources, such as YouTubers or community groups.

Heck, I'd chance the guess that quite a few of these people weren't going to buy the game anyway, they just wanted to pop and complain a bit.

[Boozehound]

Originally posted by DonPablo:

There are much more Americans who are ahead of her and deserve to be in the game as great leaders. This is just a woke reason

Absolutely agree. It's pure pandering to the basketball american infatuated demographic.

[Clown Reemus]

Originally posted by DaBo81:

The thing about wokery is that it'll always try to gaslight you with canards like 'define woke', or 'it's just a game', or 'why do you think female custodes are bad for the hobby?' etc.
Tubbers is indicative that the game is woke, as that crowd are locked in the CRT, anti-white mindset, so they'll love a tubby, fugly, black woman in their games.
It's likely that there's more wokery inserted in the game that'll come to light over time. Unfortunately, it's like adding dog poop to chocolate ice cream, it spoils the whole experience.

You still haven't defined any of it. Unless you do, you cannot authentically discuss any matter. Claiming you understand something is really not enough, wasn't 2500 years ago and won't be going forward, my condolences.

[Luritutus]

Did I understand this correctly?

They just added Harriet Tubman alongside with numerous other leaders like Benjamin Franklin and peoples calling this game "woke"?

I can understand when they just added some non-spectacular leaders but ignoring other "more popular peoples", I mean, where is Bismarck - but the game is not even out and not all leaders was announced

Is this the reason that peoples call this game "woke"? There is no other reason for that?

[Lostronaut]

Originally posted by DonPablo:

There are much more Americans who are ahead of her and deserve to be in the game as great leaders. This is just a woke reason

You'd be wrong, but that's ok, you're wrong quite a lot.

[Lostronaut]

Originally posted by Ixal:

Originally posted by Random NPC:

You'd be wrong, but that's ok, you're wrong quite a lot.

He isn't though.
When it comes to being a leader of the country there is a very long list of people more worthy of that spot, including all presidents and many people whos actions either influenced the entire country or were involved in its founding.

None of that applies to Tubman.

And have all been represented in previous iterations of the game.

Tell me you've never played Civ as a series without saying you've never played Civ as a series.

[Weatherman]

People complaining that this game is woke really know nothing about this series. They're not fans--they're just culture keyboard warriors trying to bully people.

The civ series was always woke by their incredibly broad and ridiculous criteria. Civ 1 had a global warming mechanic... in 1991. They'd cry a river if a game had that nowadays.

[Lostronaut]

Originally posted by DaBo81:

Originally posted by Clown Reemus:

You still haven't defined any of it. Unless you do, you cannot authentically discuss any matter. Claiming you understand something is really not enough, wasn't 2500 years ago and won't be going forward, my condolences.

I don't waste time trying to explain things to the deliberately obtuse. Woke really isn't that complicated to understand, anyone with a modicum of intelligence can figure it out.

Then you should have no problems explaining it, unless you don't have the prerequisite 'modicum of Intelligence'. Your words, not ours.

[Lostronaut]

Originally posted by DaBo81:

Originally posted by Random NPC:

Then you should have no problems explaining it, unless you don't have the prerequisite 'modicum of Intelligence'. Your words, not ours.

There's definitions out there on the internet and in dictionaries, it has been defined for anyone who cares to look it up. However, in my experience, leftwingers act in such bad faith that they'll feign a lack of understanding just to make someone waste time and energy explaining things to them - they are deliberately obtuse.

So, you don't have the modicum of intelligence required to have this discussion, yet you insist on having it. Your words, not mine. It's a valid point that if you can't explain something, you don't understand it enough to explain it, i.e. you don't have the modicum of intelligence, NOR the learning required to have this conversation.

Go back to the kid's table, the adults are talking here.