Why you ruined Carthaginian civilization !?

[j.o.4]

I really was looking forward to Carthaginian civilization . . .
but now I know you in Baltimore complete lost your eyes !
I do not buy this DLC. You did not read my suggestions . . .

- HOW TO FIX IT / REWORK IT ?
A) Immediately start game "0 a. d." and game "Rome: Total War" with mod "Europa Barbarorum" and play for Carthagians.
B) Look for reconstructions of cities / archeological sites like:
Gadir, tower in Zurrieq, Sa Caleta, Motya, Lilybaeum, Kerkouane, pre-Roman Carthage
and other Phoenician colonies and also mother cities in Levant.

+) Change name of civilization from Carthaginian to Punic (Punic is more native name
to them, their call yourselfs "Ponnim" or "Punnim" = Phoenicians
1)Change unique military unit to:
a) HaDorkim HaQdošim (Sacred band)
b) Ḥameš-Mašōt (Punic warship)
c) Pil Malḥamit (African warelephants)

2) You can change unique civilian unit to (choose something):
a) navigator (sea explorer)
b) Seḥer (Phoenician merchant ship or just land merchant)
c) ​Kehinit (priestress) can heals or something

3) you can add civis like "sufeṭim" ("judges") or "mizreḥ" (something like guild) or
blessing of Aštart / Tanit / Ba'al Ḥamon . . . or council of adirim ("highest")

4) create unique architecture, you simply put Roman architecture to Punics, what a shame.
City center look Punic, but that small houses can not be simple Roman ! (look for
mentioned games and archeological reconstructions like Kerkouane etc.), also city walls
need unique model (look for reconstructions of Lilybaeum, Motya and Punic Carthage
and mentioned games), you must understand that original Phoenician architecture was
canaanite architecture and in the last centuries of Carthage here comes Greek
architecture features = mix of Cannanite and Greek architecture (perfectly ilustrated in
game 0 a. d.)

You can look for my pdf document, which I made for Humankind, pages 37-43:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/5hg27jkgdi32jhk1nu27y/Unique-architecture-for-Mauryans-Carthaginians-and-Myceneans.pdf?rlkey=xtwt5fetbd18080nkvtgq49de&st=amahremt&dl=0

5) complete rework "Byrsa" wonder. Did you know what it is ? Your model looks like Greek
fantasy and not like something real :(
City "Carthage" have fortified holy hill, at the top was temple of Esmun, it was one of
the biggest and richest Phoenician temple, and last defended place of Carthaginian
republic, where last refuges hidding before Romans.
A) better named it Barsat or higest temple of Esmun
B) hill + punic walls with gates at staircase something like this:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ed/c0/92/edc092639c9389ec49dbca32ea31bb10.jpg
but around staircase were multi-storey decorated houses,
at top was rectangular square, in it was propably big temple not small altair or shrine,
I thin that temple must look similar to Solomon s temple, because Solomon temple was
also build by Phoenician builders and have Canaanite features.
+) there is also possibility to choose as wonder "Cothon" = military command port with
merchant port of Carthage rather than "Byrsa"

6) You choose port unique bulding which was typical for Phoenicians, but now there are
too many port things for Carthage. I rather make unique Phoenician temple quarter with
Cannanite style temple (miqdaš or maqdaš) and "tophet" as cemetery or "namel" =
commercial port or simple "šuq" = market like in Carthage was.

7) Use rather native names of Phoenician / Punic / Carthaginian cities:

- Qart Ḥadašt = Carthago
- ʿAtiq = Utica
- ʾAgadir = Cadiz
- ʾAIy Ḥol = Cherchell
- ʾAdrumit = Hadrumetum
- Moṭuaʾ = Motya
- Lilybaion = Lilybaeum
- Karaly = Caralis
- Bitan (Bitʿan) - in Sardinia
- Qart or Kart - in Greek Carteia
- Rusadir – nowdays Melilla
- Makom Ṣyṣ - nowdays Palermo
- Maleṭ - in Greek Melite, city on Malta
- Malakaʾ = Malaka
- Uyʿat or Weyaʿt = Oea
- Sabratʿan = Sabratha
- other cities maybe later . . .
- ʿApun ? = Hippo Regius
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8) Punic can also unlock Abbasid or no.

+ watch my other suggestion for Civilization VII

[Judicant]

Augustus Caesar is a pretty good combo with Carthage. :)

They have a city called "Hippo". I like Hippo.

[Evrach]

Another clown seeker

[Rhapsody]

Sorry, but the civ plays quite excellently already. I don't really disagree about names of settlements, but Carthage isn't the only civilization to have their names localized.

[azmundai]

I had 3 strokes trying to read this

[Skull]

Diposting pertama kali oleh azmundai:

I had 3 strokes trying to read this

Only 3? I had 5. What is bro waffling about?