I hope they add nordic civs :)

[Røyskatt]

like Denmark, Norway, Finland and such

[plaguepenguin]

They do have the Normans.

[Truffie]

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[Glemt]

Originally posted by plaguepenguin:

They do have the Normans.

Exactly. But people mostly think of "nordic" only in terms of where nordic countries are now, not where their cultures were then.

[mikael8282]

I guess they will release Norse as an atiquity age civilization as DLC soon after release.
Norse was an absolute powerhouse so its bonus to come.
Normans are the logic choice to replace Norse in the exploration age.
Then it might be sweden or denmark in the modern age.
Sweden was concidered a great power for 100 years 1618-1720 or something. Denmark is viable as well but had its glory days during viking era. You are free to argue against me.

I hope for 2 leaders. A true warrior viking king from denmark or norway. Knud the great would be nice but not necessary (militaristic, economic)
Second leader I want Alfred Nobel (scientific/diplomatic). Would be fun

[mikael8282]

I dont think norway, Iceland or Finland will make it to DLC. Hopefully the MOD community get tools to create nations and leaders...

[plaguepenguin]

Originally posted by Glemt:

Originally posted by plaguepenguin:

They do have the Normans.

Exactly. But people mostly think of "nordic" only in terms of where nordic countries are now, not where their cultures were then.

Exactly.

Were the people who lived in what is currently Scandinavia in 4000 BCE genetically, linguistically, or culturally, at all like the people who live there now? The people who live there now mostly speak an Indo-European language, which may or may not have anything at all to do with genetic or cultural identity, but the language, at least by current thinking, originated in Central Europe. So, would a "Nordic" Antiquity civ in this game have to be, I don't know. the Corded Ware people? Or the Saami because identity is bound up in geography?

By the Exploration Age, some of the more adventurous, or more desperate, people who started during what we often call the historical Dark Ages (the crisis period in game terms), in what is now Scandinavia, went Viking and ended up creating kingdoms scattered all over Europe. One group successfully expropriated the duchy of Normandy, and from there continued expropriating whole kingdoms.

One of these kingdoms was, of course, England. I strongly suspect England will be a Modern Age civ, for all sorts of reasons, and if only to flatter a large base of customers. I strongly suspect that Russia as well will make the cut for initial release Modern civs, and they too will be game-terms successors to the Normans. You could make a case for France and Italy as Modern Age successors to the Normans as well. This flexibility of succession may be why they chose the Normans as an Exploration Age civ.

Of course, any or all of the Scandinavian countries could also reasonably become Modern Age successors to the Normans. If there were 20 slots left for the initial release Modern civs, I would bet that one or more would be in that number, but it's only five slots left, and I think that commercial needs alone will dictate that Russia, Germany, and the US get slots (I've already factored in France), so that really only leaves two unclaimed slots. I don't know how likely it is that any Scandinavian country will manage to get one of the only two left.

It's a fair bet that there will be a series of new civs released in DLC. Maybe Antiquity will get the Corded War people, or, more likely, the Saami, who probably were occupying Scandinavia in 4000 BCE. Exploration could get the Swedes, Denmark, or maybe the Vikings or the Kalmar Union. Any of the countries currently in Scandinavia could get Modern Age civs.

Even big markets like the US have to put up with whatever notional slight is contained in not having their civ playable right from 4000 BCE. USA #1 chauvinists are presumably envious of Nordic fans for getting an Exploration Age civ while they have to wait all the way until the Modern to get whatever jollies they get from playing as an extremely artificial and limited game version of their historical country of origin.

Personally, a representation of Washington DC being founded in 4000 BCE, then sending out warriors armed with clubs, doesn't do anything at all for me. I wouldn't even care if the USA doesn't make the initial cut of Modern civs, because this is a game. I want it to be a good game, first, last, and always, and I can't even imagine what sort of validation inclusion in the Civ 7 roster confers on my country of origin. Let me play as a Corded Ware person, and I'm happy -- as long as I'm playing a good game.

[skunkno1]

There will be a DLC for that but you will have to wait until after the DLCs for African, Asian, Middle Eastern and Native American cultures. 2027 maybe.

[katzenkrimis]

Considering the last DLC's for Civilization VI were released between November 2022 and March 2023, seven years after the game's release, you can fully expect the same thing to happen with Civilization VII.

Any civilization that you can dream up will probably stand a chance of being implemented.

Not sure why so many people are panicking today, two months before the game is even released. You've got seven years of DLC coming.

I would love to see Canada, but you'll never see me screaming for it because I know Firaxis will release it eventually.

Until then, Tecumseh, Mississippian, Shawnee, and the Americans will do fine. They are as close as it gets to being Canadian. They are our brothers.

Find a brother.

Or an inbred cousin.

[Baba Zina]

Yes, Varangian civ would be nice to have!