Sid Meier's Civilization VII

Sid Meier's Civilization VII

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Intellyless Feb 11 @ 1:22pm
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DO (NOT) BUY THIS GAME
Okay, I know the title is clickbait, but hey, I got your attention. Did I?

So I've got 25+ hours into this game. I purchased the founder's edition in early January, and I didn't even realize it came with 5 days of pre-release access. Here is my opinion, and no I'm not trying to sell you the game or try to keep you from buying it. You're old and ugly enough to decide that for yourself :) Hence the title.

Okay, here we go.

Do I like this game?
Yes, I do. Very much even, if I dare say it.

Is the game perfect?
No, of course not.

Is the UI as terrible as the critics make you believe?
No, but it isn't great either. It is different from the previous installments, and you'll need to learn the lay of the land a bit. It also lacks a few features that we're used to in Civ 5 and 6. Then again, Civ 6 has had over a decade of development, including initial development, all its DLCs, expansions, and whatnot. So these features will come back over time, no worries.

Is the game finished/bug-free?
No, and no, there are plenty of bugs. I encountered a few here and there, and the game crashed once on the infamous age transition. There is no Information Age and no future Age, but I think these are, at this moment, too underdeveloped and thus will be included in a future update (Yes, I think update instead of DLC). I also believe that is why there is no "one more turn" option at the end of the modern era: You literally have more ages to go and thus have not finished the game.

So far, I have played three games, one of which I actually finished and won with a culture victory. So why did I only finish one? The first game I started, I was playing too casually, as I sometimes did in Civ6. I had barely any troops, and all my (4) settlements were turned into cities, and I didn't realize/know the Civs here are more aggressive than in Civ6. So, by the time the modern age turned around, I got jumped by all the remaining 6 or 7 Civs in the game at the same time. I tried to get around it a few times, reloading a previous save, but I couldn't win; I had no army, no money, and no income, so that game was done.
I tried again at marathon speed in the second game, but I soon realized that this was not balanced, as I couldn't even research one-third of the tech and civic trees. So, I abandoned it and tried again with epic game speed, which, in my opinion, is the most balanced at this moment.

Would I recommend this game?
That is a nuanced question with a nuanced answer because it all depends on what you like and whether you are willing to accept that this is a different adaptation from the previous installments, like those old sobs on this forum who are unwilling to evolve and try something new. They would rather play Civ2 because it's simplistic and easy to get the hang of. Well, to you people, go back to your precious Civ2 and stop whining about Civ trying to evolve past your understanding. If you don't like it, this game is not meant for you!

Last but not least, what is the OH, SO INFAMOUS age transition like?
During each age (except the last), a crisis starts at 70% through the age. This crisis is reasonably easy to manage, to be honest. (Or that's just the difficulty I played at.) It doesn't really interrupt your overall game that much. By the end of the age, the game tells you your civ has fallen (even though it's still standing the way you left a turn ago) and who will live on our legacy. Then you're pulled out of the "game," and you have to choose another civ, not the leader just the civ. There are 8 or 9 options to choose from. The first game you play, you will see that only three are unlocked, and the rest are locked. You can unlock them by playing in a certain way and getting achievements or leveling up your leader (which is done by playing). It is not like Humankind, where the first to reach a goal is the first to choose. Each civ chooses from a set list of each new age.

Then, in the new age, the playing field is leveled as much as possible (if you conquered a dozen or so settlements, you will still have all of them and thus still have an edge over the rest). If you had loads of armies, you would find that you had lost some to a lot. Cities are turned back into towns, and your policy slots are empty. This does feel very disruptive at first and breaks emersion, continuity etc., etc. So I hope they can either make it more believable that you have to take a step back to go forward or make it less disruptive. Which would make the game that much better. On the other hand if you have played a couple of games you also get used to it and you prepare for it beforehand instead of being tunderstruck at what you lost.

So this has been my opinion I like the game, sure, it can definetally be improved but we got about a decade for that until the next game so I'm not worried. If you read this entire rambling of me thanks and I like to here your thoughts on this game!
Last edited by Intellyless; Feb 11 @ 1:23pm
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I thought Civ 6 was ok but I just didn't want to keep playing it much because there was no meta progression, choosing what to do with builders was not fun, I did not like the civ 6 ui for trades at all, I was not a fan of the cartoony graphics and even though I like Sean Bean I thought he was not the right voice for civ.

With Civ 7 they fixed what I didn't like and it's well optimised so I'm loving it a lot more.
cities turning back into towns killed it for me

oh and city-states ive befriended go back to barbarians. ughhhh i was using them for a southern flank lol. i thought they fixed it last patch but instead of disappearing they just barbarian it up
Last edited by vishuspuss; Feb 11 @ 1:40pm
Originally posted by Luckiernut:
I thought Civ 6 was ok but I just didn't want to keep playing it much because there was no meta progression, choosing what to do with builders was not fun, I did not like the civ 6 ui for trades at all, I was not a fan of the cartoony graphics and even though I like Sean Bean I thought he was not the right voice for civ.

With Civ 7 they fixed what I didn't like and it's well optimised so I'm loving it a lot more.

I play since Civ 5 but I liked them both and now 7 as well, although wit civ 6 i got bored half way through because I got to powerful and the end result was clear so there is that, the age transition in 7 fixes that, although it still can be improved.
Intellyless Feb 11 @ 1:43pm 
Originally posted by vishuspuss:
cities turning back into towns killed it for me

oh and city-states ive befriended go back to barbarians. ughhhh i was using them for a southern flank lol. i thought they fixed it last patch but instead of disappearing they just barbarian it up

I've seen them only disappear yet, last age, I got all aggressive city-states spawned between my cities, so I had to remove them fast before they became too strong.
Last edited by Intellyless; Feb 11 @ 1:44pm
Skull Feb 11 @ 1:46pm 
The one problem I have with the UI is information about things like treasure fleets and religion weren’t really clear the first time around. After my first playthrough (Charlemagne is fun as hell btw I highly recommend him) I’ve gotten used to the UI and all the little nitpicks YouTubers are noting just fall to the wayside.
Pauley Feb 11 @ 1:47pm 
Originally posted by Intellyless:
Originally posted by vishuspuss:
cities turning back into towns killed it for me

oh and city-states ive befriended go back to barbarians. ughhhh i was using them for a southern flank lol. i thought they fixed it last patch but instead of disappearing they just barbarian it up

I've seen them only disappear yet, last age, I got all aggressive city-states between me, so I had to remove them fast before they became too strong.
I don't know what you said to get hidden by the automated content check system but it must be good so take my points.
-=Maure=- (Banned) Feb 11 @ 1:50pm 
Originally posted by Viper:
I don't listen to troll bait.
Guy wrote a lengthy and well-detailed post with his opinion, just because you don't like what someone has to say doesn't make it trolling. Grow tf up.
Originally posted by Pauley:
Originally posted by Intellyless:

I've seen them only disappear yet, last age, I got all aggressive city-states between me, so I had to remove them fast before they became too strong.
I don't know what you said to get hidden by the automated content check system but it must be good so take my points.

I only said that the city-states to me only disapeared and reapeared in the next age and all aggressive ones betweem all my cities so I had to take care of them.
Surprised anyone was dumb enough to buy it after Civ 5 was so trash, but also not surprised people bought it because for some reason "people" actually liked Civ 5. It's humorous to see the backlash and complaints about 7 being dumbed down when 5 was as dumb as you could get. I suppose time is truly a flat circle.
Originally posted by Skull:
The one problem I have with the UI is information about things like treasure fleets and religion weren’t really clear the first time around. After my first playthrough (Charlemagne is fun as hell btw I highly recommend him) I’ve gotten used to the UI and all the little nitpicks YouTubers are noting just fall to the wayside.

Yeah same it lacks a bit info here and there but you have to get used to it then it will become better.
Viper Feb 11 @ 1:55pm 
Originally posted by -=Maure=-:
Originally posted by Viper:
I don't listen to troll bait.
Guy wrote a lengthy and well-detailed post with his opinion, just because you don't like what someone has to say doesn't make it trolling. Grow tf up.
Its troll bait if you title it that way regardless of the content. Hes trying to get attention isn't he. Thats called trolling.
Last edited by Viper; Feb 11 @ 1:55pm
-=Maure=- (Banned) Feb 11 @ 1:56pm 
Grow up kid
Viper Feb 11 @ 1:56pm 
Originally posted by -=Maure=-:
Grow up kid
argue the point...
Originally posted by DarkHelmutt:
Surprised anyone was dumb enough to buy it after Civ 5 was so trash, but also not surprised people bought it because for some reason "people" actually liked Civ 5. It's humorous to see the backlash and complaints about 7 being dumbed down when 5 was as dumb as you could get. I suppose time is truly a flat circle.

Like I said im my long ass post if you don't like this game is not for you. Stop whining about civ trying to evolve past your understanding and go back to your precious civ2
Originally posted by Viper:
Originally posted by -=Maure=-:
Guy wrote a lengthy and well-detailed post with his opinion, just because you don't like what someone has to say doesn't make it trolling. Grow tf up.
Its troll bait if you title it that way regardless of the content. Hes trying to get attention isn't he. Thats called trolling.
Not trolling im the slithest just ginving my own honest opionion. If get mad about reading something on the internet it is like stepping in d*g sh!t instead of walking around it. Go back to your precious civ2
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