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Portuguese leader in the Age of Exploration NO , Why ?
I wonder why a Leader of Portugal is not included in the Age of Exploration after reading this? - I can't find any reason not to be.

First Portuguese Atlantic expeditions (1419-1460)

Trans-Atlantic trade routes circa 1400

In 1415, the Portuguese conquered Ceuta with the aim of controlling shipping on the North African coast, an event generally recognised as the beginning of Portuguese expansion. The young Prince Henry the Navigator, who took part in the conquest, learnt about the profit possibilities of the Trans-Asian trade routes. For centuries, slave and gold trade routes had linked West Africa to the Mediterranean across the Sahara desert, controlled by hostile Muslim powers from North Africa. Prince Henry then set out to find out how far the Muslim territories extended, in the hope of overcoming them and trading directly by sea, finding allies in the Christian lands that were thought to exist to the south, such as the legendary Preste João, and finding out if it would be possible to reach the Indies, the origin of the lucrative spice trade. He then invested his personal wealth in sponsoring exploratory voyages off the coast of Mauritania, bringing together a group of merchants, shipowners and those interested in new maritime routes.

In 1419 and 1420, João Gonçalves Zarco and Tristão da Ilha recognised the islands of Porto Santo and Madeira. The archipelagos of Madeira and the Canary Islands aroused the interest of both the Portuguese and the Castilians from an early stage; being neighbours of the African coast, they represented strong economic and strategic potential. In 1427, Diogo de Silves reached the Azores archipelago.

From 1422 onwards, successive voyages along the African coast succeeded in overcoming Cape No, the southern limit considered insurmountable by Europeans and Arabs. In 1434, Gil Eanes rounded Cape Bojador, dispelling the terror that this promontory inspired. The following year, sailing with Afonso Gonçalves Baldaia, they discovered Angra de Ruivos and the latter reached the River of Gold in Western Sahara. Meanwhile, after the Portuguese defeat of Tangier in 1437, the Portuguese postponed their plans to conquer Morocco in North Africa. In 1441, Nuno Tristão reached Cape Blanc. Together with Antão Gonçalves, they made forays to the River of Gold. From then on, there was a widespread belief that this area of the African coast could sustain commercial activity, regardless of further advances.

In 1453, Constantinople fell to the Ottomans, dealing a blow to Christianity and established trade relations. In 1455, Pope Nicholas V issued the bull Romanus Pontifex, reinforcing the previous Dum Diversas of 1452, declaring that the lands and seas discovered beyond Cape Bojador belonged to the kings of Portugal, authorising trade, but also conquests against infidels and pagans, reducing them to perpetual slavery, and initiating the policy of mare clausum in the Atlantic.

In 1456, Diogo Gomes reached the Cape Verde archipelago. In the following decade, several captains in the service of Prince Henry the Navigator - such as the Genoese António da Noli and the Venetian Alvise Cadamosto - discovered the remaining islands and settlement followed in the 15th century. The Gulf of Guinea was reached in the 1460s.

Explorations after Prince Henry the Navigator (1460-♥♥♥♥)

Replica of a caravel, used from the middle of the 15th century for ocean exploration
In 1460, Pêro de Sintra reached Sierra Leone. In November of that year, Prince Henry died and, in 1469, given the limited income from exploration, Afonso V, King of Portugal, granted a monopoly on trade in the Gulf of Guinea to the Lisbon merchant Fernão Gomes da Mina, for an annual rent of 200,000 réis. According to João de Barros, this ‘honourable citizen of Lisbon’ was obliged to continue his explorations, since the exclusive trade was guaranteed on the condition that ‘in each of these five years he would be obliged to discover a hundred leagues along the coast, so that at the end of his lease he would have five hundred leagues discovered’.

This advance, of which there are few details, is thought to have started from Sierra Leone, where Pêro de Sintra and Soeiro da Costa had already arrived. With the collaboration of navigators such as João de Santarém, Pedro Escobar, Lopo Gonçalves, Fernão do Pó and Pedro de Sintra, Fernão Gomes went even further than contracted: with their sponsorship, the Portuguese reached Cape Santa Catarina, already in the Southern Hemisphere. João de Santarém and Pêro Escobar explored the northern coast of the Gulf of Guinea, reaching the ‘gold mine’ of Sama (now Sama Bay), the coast of Mina, Benin, Calabar and Gabon and the islands of São Tomé and Príncipe and Ano Bom. When the expeditions reached Elmina on the Gold Coast in 1471, they found a flourishing local trade in alluvial gold.

In 1474, King Afonso V entrusted his son, Prince João, the future King João II, with the organisation of explorations of African lands, which thus passed from private initiative to the crown. He reconnoitred the entire coast up to the region of the St Augustine pattern. In 1483, Diogo Cão reached the Zaire River and two years later, on a second voyage, the Serra Parda.

In 1487, King João II sent Afonso de Paiva and Pêro da Covilhã overland in search of Preste João and information on navigation and trade in the Indian Ocean. That same year, Bartolomeu Dias, commanding an expedition with three caravels, reached the Cape of Good Hope. The nautical link between the Atlantic and the Indian Ocean was thus established. The project for the sea route to India was outlined by King João II as a measure to reduce costs in trade with Asia and an attempt to monopolise the spice trade. In addition to the increasingly solid Portuguese maritime presence, King João aimed to dominate the trade routes and expand the kingdom of Portugal, which was already becoming an empire. However, this endeavour would not be realised during his reign. It would be his successor, Manuel I, who would appoint Vasco da Gama to this expedition, while maintaining the original plan.

Maritime expansion to the ‘New World’
Columbus reaches the ‘West Indies’ (1492)
See main article: Discovery of America, Discovery of Brazil
The Crown of Castile, Portugal's rival, was a little slower to start exploring the Atlantic. It wasn't until the end of the 15th century, after the unification of the crowns of Castile and Aragon and once the reconquest had been completed, that the Spanish were committed to finding new trade routes and expanding. The crown of Aragon had been a maritime potentate in the Mediterranean, controlling territories in eastern Spain, south-western France and major islands such as Mallorca, Sicily and Malta, the Kingdom of Naples and Sardinia, in domains that extended as far as Greece. In 1492, the Catholic kings conquered the Moorish kingdom of Granada, which had been supplying African goods through tribute to Castile, and decided to finance the expedition of the Genoese Christopher Columbus - who had presented himself to King John II of Portugal twice, in 1485 and ♥♥♥♥, without success - ‘in the hope of diverting Portugal's trade to Africa and thence to the Indian Ocean, reaching Asia by travelling west’.

The four voyages of Christopher Columbus 1492-1503
Sailing for the Spanish crown, Christopher Columbus set sail from Palos de la Frontera on 3 August 1492 with three small vessels: the ship Santa Maria and the caravels Niña and Pinta. On 12 October 1492, Christopher Columbus reached what he called the ‘West Indies’, an islet in the Bahamas which he named San Salvador. Sailing on, he docked in Cuba (according to the Cubans themselves, the name is derived from the word Taíno, ‘cubanacán’, meaning ‘a central place’) and arrived in Haiti, which he named Hispaniola. Assuming he had reached India, he left a small colony and returned to Europe. On his second voyage in 1493, he sighted the Antilles and approached Martinique. He then headed north and reached Puerto Rico. He went to Hispaniola, where the small colony had been razed to the ground by the natives. Having left another contingent of men there, he sailed westwards and reached Jamaica. On this voyage he founded Isabela, now Santo Domingo, in the Dominican Republic, the first European settlement on the American continent.

Replicas of the caravels Niña, Pinta and the ship Santa María (centre) in Palos de la Frontera, Spain
The Spanish were initially disappointed with their discoveries - unlike Africa or Asia, the Caribbean islands allowed little trade. The islands therefore became the focus of colonisation efforts. Only later, when the interior of the continent was explored, would Spain find the wealth it had sought in the form of abundant silver and gold.

In the Americas, the Spanish found a series of empires as large and populous as those in Europe. However, small bodies of Spanish conquistadors with large armies of Amerindians managed to defeat these states. The most notable of the conquered states were the Aztec empire in Mexico (conquered in 1521) and the Inca empire in Peru (conquered in 1532). During this time, disease pandemics such as European smallpox devastated the indigenous populations. Once Spanish sovereignty was established, exploitation centred on the extraction and export of gold and silver.

The Treaty of Tordesillas (1494)
See main article: Treaty of Tordesillas

Tordesillas Meridian (pink) of 1494 and its antimeridian (green) established by the Treaty of Zaragoza in 1529
After Columbus arrived in the ‘West Indies’, a division of the zone of influence became necessary to avoid future conflicts between the Spanish and Portuguese. This was resolved in 1494, with the signing under papal aegis of the Treaty of Tordesillas, which ‘divided’ the world between the two powers of the time, Portugal and Spain.

Immediately after Columbus' return in 1493, the Catholic kings had obtained from Pope Alexander VI the papal bull Inter caetera stating that all the lands west and south of a meridian 100 leagues west of the Azores or the Cape Verde Islands should belong to Spain and, later, including all the territories of India. It did not mention Portugal, which could not claim newly discovered lands even east of this line. King João II of Portugal was not satisfied with the agreement, feeling that it gave him little leeway - preventing him from reaching India, his main objective. He then negotiated directly with King Ferdinand of Aragon and Queen Isabella of Castile to move this line westwards, allowing him to claim all the newly discovered lands to the east of it.

In the Treaty of Tordesillas of 1494, the Portuguese ‘received’ all the territories outside Europe east of a meridian that ran 270 leagues west of the Cape Verde Islands, which gave them control over Africa, Asia and eastern South America (Brazil). The Spanish were given all the territories west of that line, which were still almost completely unknown, and which turned out to be mainly the western part of the American continent and the islands of the Pacific Ocean.

The New World (1497-1507)

Juan de la Cosa's map of 1500 is the oldest unequivocal representation of the Americas
Only a small part of the area divided up by the Treaty of Tordesillas had ever been seen by Europeans, and it was only divided up on paper. Immediately after Columbus' first voyage, several explorers sailed in the same direction. In 1497, Giovanni Caboto, also an Italian, obtained a patent from King Henry VII of England. Leaving Bristol, probably supported by the local ‘Society of Merchant Venturers’, Caboto crossed the Atlantic further north, hoping that the journey would be shorter, and landed somewhere in North America, possibly in Newfoundland.

In 1499, João Fernandes Lavrador was licensed by the King of Portugal and, together with Pêro de Barcelos, for the first time sighted Labrador, which was granted and named in his honour. Almost at the same time, between 1499-1502, the brothers Gaspar and Miguel Corte Real explored and named the coasts of Greenland and Newfoundland. Both explorations were marked on the Cantino planisphere of 1502.
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The discovery of America
In 1497, in fulfilment of his predecessor's plan to find a route to the Indies, the newly crowned King Manuel I of Portugal sent an exploratory fleet eastwards. In 1499 the news spread that the Portuguese had reached the ‘true Indies’, as stated in a letter immediately sent by the Portuguese king to the Catholic Monarchs the day after the arrival of the celebrated fleet.

At the same time as Columbus embarked on two new voyages to explore Central America, a second large Portuguese armada was sent to India. The fleet of thirteen ships and around 1500 men set sail from Lisbon on 9 March 1500. Commanded by Pedro Álvares Cabral, it had an experienced crew, including the experts Bartolomeu Dias, Nicolau Coelho and the scribe Pêro Vaz de Caminha. To avoid the calm off the coast of the Gulf of Guinea, they sailed in a south-westerly direction, in a great ‘round of the sea’. Some historians argue that the Portuguese were already aware of the existence of the bulge formed by South America when they carried out the so-called ‘round the sea’ manoeuvre; hence King João II's insistence on moving the Tordesillas line westwards, claiming that the landing in Brazil may not have been accidental. On 21 April, they spotted a mountain which they named ‘Monte Pascoal’. On 22 April, they landed on the coast and, on 25 April, the entire fleet sailed to a port they named ‘Porto Seguro’. Having realised that the new land was east of the Tordesillas line, Cabral soon sent an emissary to Portugal with the important news, believing that the newly discovered lands were an island, which he named ‘Ilha de Vera Cruz’. The name ‘Brazil’, which would come to be used during the colonial period (1530 - 1815), derives from the word ‘pau-brasil’, a wood often found on the Amazon coast.

According to another version, the earliest European voyage to Brazilian territory took place on 26 January 1500, when Spanish navigator Vicente Yáñez Pinzón reached Cabo de Santo Agostinho, on the southern coast of Pernambuco.

Pedro Álvares Cabral's ship in the Book of Armadas (Library of the Lisbon Academy of Sciences)
At the invitation of King Manuel I of Portugal, Amerigo Vespucci - a Florentine who had worked for a branch of the Medici bank in Seville since 1491 equipping ocean fleets, and who had twice travelled to the Guianas with Juan de la Cosa in the service of Spain - took part as an observer in the first exploratory voyages to South America between 1499 and 1502, expeditions that became widely known in Europe after two accounts attributed to him, published between 1502 and 1504.

It was soon realised that Columbus had not reached Asia, but what Europeans saw as the New World: the Americas. America was thus named for the first time in 1507 by cartographers Martin Waldseemüller and Matthias Ringmann, probably inspired by Amerigo Vespucci, the first European to suggest that the newly discovered lands were not India, but a ‘New World’ or ‘Mundus Novus’, the Latin title of the document based on Vespucci's letters to Lorenzo di Pierfrancesco de Medici, which had then become very popular in Europe.

Exploration in the Indian Ocean
The sea route to India and the Portuguese expeditions in the Indian Ocean (1498-1517)
See main article: Discovery of the sea route to India

Route travelled by the expedition of Vasco da Gama (in black), Pêro da Covilhã (in orange) and Afonso de Paiva (in blue) after their long voyage together (in green).
Protected from direct Spanish competition by the Treaty of Tordesillas, Portuguese exploration continued apace. Twice, in 1485 and ♥♥♥♥, Portugal had officially rejected Christopher Columbus' proposal to reach India by sailing westwards. The king's experts were of the opinion that Columbus' estimate of a voyage of 2,400 miles (3,860 kilometres) was underestimated. Furthermore, shortly afterwards, Bartolomeu Dias had returned to Portugal after successfully rounding the southern tip of Africa, showing that the Indian Ocean was accessible from the Atlantic, and so they knew that sailing west to reach the Indies would require a much longer journey.

After Bartolomeu Dias rounded the Cape of Good Hope in 1487 and Pêro da Covilhã reached Ethiopia by land, showing that the riches of the Indian Ocean were accessible from the Atlantic, Vasco da Gama set off to discover the sea route to India and arrived in Calicut on 20 May 1498, returning in glory to Portugal the following year. In 1500, on his second expedition to India, Pedro Álvares Cabral sighted the Brazilian coastline. Ten years later, Afonso de Albuquerque conquered Goa in India and shortly afterwards, in 1511, Malacca in Malaysia. At the same time, he invested diplomatic efforts with the merchants of Southeast Asia, such as the Chinese, in the hope that they would echo the good relations with the Portuguese. Knowing of the Siamese ambitions over Malacca, he immediately sent Duarte Fernandes on a diplomatic mission to the Kingdom of Siam (present-day Thailand), where he was the first European to arrive travelling on a Chinese junk returning to China, establishing friendly relations between the kingdoms of Portugal and Siam.

Replica of the ship ‘Frol de la mar’, home of the Malacca Maritime Museum, in 2007
Still in November of that year, when he learnt of the secret location of the so-called ‘spice islands’, he ordered the first Portuguese ships to leave for Southeast Asia, commanded by his trusted men António de Abreu and Francisco Serrão, guided by Malaysian pilots. These were the first Europeans to reach the Banda Islands in the Moluccas. Serrão's ship ran aground near Ceram and the sultan of Ternate, Abu Lais, seeing an opportunity to ally himself with a powerful foreign nation, brought the crew to Ternate in 1512. From then on, the Portuguese were authorised to build a fortification on the island, on the passage to the Pacific Ocean: the Fort of Saint John the Baptist of Ternate.

In May 1513, sailing from Malacca (present-day Malaysia), Jorge Álvares was the first European to reach South China. Although he landed on Lintin Island in the Pearl River delta, it was Rafael Perestrelo - a cousin of Christopher Columbus' wife - who was the first European explorer to land on the Chinese mainland coast in 1516 and trade in Canton (Guangzhou) in 1516, commanding a Portuguese ship, with a crew of Malays who had sailed from Malacca.Fernão Pires de Andrade visited Canton in 1517 and opened up trade with China. This visit was followed by the establishment of some Portuguese trading posts in the province of Canton, where the entrepôt of Macau was established in 1557. According to available records, he was the first European to reach and visit the territory that is now Hong Kong.

Exploration in the Pacific Ocean

Vasco Núñez de Balboa's voyage in 1513
In 1513, about 40 kilometres south of Acandí, in what is now Colombia, the Spaniard Vasco Núñez de Balboa heard the unexpected news from the caciques that there was ‘another’ sea rich in gold, which he received with great interest. With few resources and using the caciques' information, he crossed the Isthmus of Panama[46] with 190 Spaniards, some native guides and a pack of dogs. Using a bergantim and ten small native canoes, he sailed along the coast until he landed. On 6 September, the expedition was reinforced with 1,000 men, fought several battles, entered a dense jungle and climbed the mountains along the Chucunaque River from where this ‘other’ sea could be seen. Balboa advanced and, on the morning of 25 September, spotted an unknown sea on the horizon, becoming the first European to have seen or reached the Pacific Ocean from the New World. The expedition descended towards the beach for a short reconnaissance trip. After travelling more than 110 km, Balboa called the bay where they arrived San Miguel Bay. He named the new sea the ‘South Sea’, as he had travelled south to reach it. The main aim of the expedition was to find gold and riches. To this end, he crossed the caciques' lands to the islands, naming the largest island Rica (today known as King's Island) and the archipelago Islas Pérola, a name it still retains today. In 1515-1516, Juan Díaz de Solís sailed to the Río de la Plata,which he named, dying in an attempt to find a passage in South America to the ‘South Sea’ in the service of Spain.

At the same time, in Southeast Asia, the Portuguese made the first European report on the western Pacific, having identified the island of Luzon to the east of Borneo, now the Philippines, whose inhabitants they called ‘luções’.

First circumnavigation by Ferdinand Magellan (1519-1522)
See main article: Ferdinand Magellan

Map of Ferdinand Magellan's voyage around the world (1519-1522)
From 1516 onwards, several Portuguese who were unhappy with the Portuguese crown gathered in Seville in the service of the newly crowned Charles I of Spain. Among them were the navigators Diogo and Duarte Barbosa, Estevão Gomes, João Serrão, Fernão de Magalhães, the cartographers Jorge Reinel and Diogo Ribeiro, the cosmographers Francisco and Rui Faleiro and the Flemish merchant Cristóvão de Haro.

Fernão de Magalhães, who had sailed to India in the service of King Manuel I until 1512, when he arrived in the Moluccas, and was in contact with Francisco Serrão who lived there,[49][50] developed the theory that the islands were in the Spanish zone of influence of Tordesillas and that there was a passage in the South Atlantic, based on studies by the Faleiro brothers. Aware of the Spanish crown's efforts to find a route to India by sailing westwards, he presented the project of getting there.

The Spanish crown and Cristovão de Haro financed Ferdinand Magellan's expedition. On 10 August 1519, the fleet of five ships set sail from Seville - the caravel Trinidad as flagship under Magellan's command, and the ships San Antonio, Concepción, Santiago and Victoria with a crew of around 237 men from various nations, with the aim of reaching the Moluccas islands from the west, trying to recover them for Spain's economic and political sphere.The fleet sailed south, avoiding Portuguese territory in Brazil, becoming the first to reach Tierra del Fuego, at the tip of the Americas.

Victoria, the only ship in Magellan's fleet to have completed the circumnavigation.

Detail of the map ‘Maris Pacifici’, the first dedicated to the Pacific, Ortelius, 1589)
On 21 October, from Cape Virgenes, he began an arduous 600 km voyage through the strait known as the Strait of All Saints, now the Strait of Magellan. On 28 November, three ships entered the Pacific Ocean - then called the ‘Pacific Sea’ because of its apparent stillness. Magellan died in battle at Mactan, near Cebu in the Philippines, leaving the Spaniard Juan Sebastián Elcano the task of completing the voyage, reaching the Spice Islands in 1521. On 6 September 1522, the Victoria returned to Spain with only eighteen members of the original crew, thus completing the first circumnavigation of the world. Of the men who set off in the five ships, only 18 completed the circumnavigation and managed to return to Spain in 1522 with Elcano.Seventeen others returned later: twelve, captured by the Portuguese in Cape Verde between 1525-1527, and five survivors from Trinidad. Antonio Pigafetta, a Venetian scholar who had insisted on embarking and became Magellan's faithful assistant, wrote a detailed diary that has become the main source of what is known today about this voyage.

This round-the-world voyage gave Spain valuable knowledge of the world and its oceans, which later helped in the exploration and colonisation of the Philippines.

Although this was not a viable alternative to compete with the Portuguese Cape route around Africa (the Strait of Magellan was too far south, and the Pacific Ocean too vast to cover in a single voyage from Spain) successive Spanish expeditions used this information to travel from the Mexican coast via Guam to Manila.

Portuguese sailings to the east and Spanish sailings to the west cross paths (1525-1529)

View from Ternate to Tidore, the Moluccan islands where Portuguese explorations to the east and Spanish explorations to the west eventually crossed paths in 1525
Three years after the return of Magellan's expedition, in 1525, King Charles I of Spain sent a new expedition sailing west led by García Jofre de Loaísa to occupy and colonise the Moluccas, claiming that they were in his zone of the Treaty of Tordesillas. The fleet of seven ships and 450 crew members included the most notable Spanish navigators: Jofre de Loaísa, Juan Sebastián Elcano (who would lose his life on this expedition) and the young Andrés de Urdaneta. In front of the Strait of Magellan, one of the ships was pushed southwards by a gale and reached 56° S, where they thought they saw ‘the end of the earth’: they thus crossed Cape Horn for the first time. The expedition reached the Moluccas with difficulty, anchoring in Tidore. Conflict soon erupted with the Portuguese who had been settled on the neighbouring island of Ternate since 1512, sparking almost a decade of skirmishes.

As there was no eastern limit established by the Treaty of Tordesillas, both kingdoms agreed to meet to resolve the problem. From 1524 to 1529, Portuguese and Spanish experts met at the junta of Badajoz-Elvas trying to determine the exact location of the antimeridian of Tordesillas, which would divide the world into two equal hemispheres. Each crown appointed three astronomers or cartographers, three pilots and three mathematicians. Lopo Homem took part on the Portuguese side and the cartographer Diogo Ribeiro in the Spanish delegation. The council met several times without reaching an agreement: knowledge at the time was insufficient for the exact calculation of longitude, and each group attributed the islands to its sovereign. The ‘Moluccan question’ was only resolved in 1529, after lengthy negotiations, with the signing of the Treaty of Zaragoza, which assigned the Moluccan islands to Portugal and the Philippines to Spain.

Between 1525 and 1528 Portugal sent several expeditions to recognise the territory around the Moluccas. Gomes de Sequeira and Diogo da Rocha were sent north by the governor of Ternate, Jorge de Meneses, and were the first Europeans to reach the Caroline Islands, which they named the ‘Sequeira Islands’. In 1526, Jorge de Meneses anchored on Waigeo Island in Papua New Guinea. These explorations are the basis for the theory of the discovery of Australia by the Portuguese, particularly defended by the Australian historian Kenneth McIntyre. This theory states that it was discovered by Cristóvão de Mendonça and Gomes de Sequeira, although it is not universally accepted and there are several competing theories about the discovery of Australia.
Glad you learned about history.
The Treaty of Tordesillas (1494)
See main article: Treaty of Tordesillas

Tordesillas Meridian (pink) of 1494 and its antimeridian (green) established by the Treaty of Zaragoza in 1529
After Columbus arrived in the ‘West Indies’, a division of the zone of influence became necessary to avoid future conflicts between the Spanish and Portuguese. This was resolved in 1494, with the signing under papal aegis of the Treaty of Tordesillas, which ‘divided’ the world between the two powers of the time, Portugal and Spain.
ChatGPT at it's finest right there.
I agree with everything!
Ursprungligen skrivet av Random NPC:
ChatGPT at it's finest right there.

Using chatGPT to make fun of others is weird flex but you do you
box 11 feb @ 14:33 
Just go play EUIV.

Civ games were never about historical accuracy.
Ursprungligen skrivet av box:
Just go play EUIV.

Civ games were never about historical accuracy.

If not historical stop using historical people then.
box 11 feb @ 21:07 
Ursprungligen skrivet av Guest In Disguise:
If not historical stop using historical people then.

You may be able to stop AI stealing your original work but you cant stop smol indie company exploiting historical facts.
Ursprungligen skrivet av Guest In Disguise:
Ursprungligen skrivet av box:
Just go play EUIV.

Civ games were never about historical accuracy.

If not historical stop using historical people then.
Worse than that is mixing history, cultures and civilizations with leaders who perhaps even went to battle in , to dispute of territories lol
Senast ändrad av 𝔓𝔲𝔰𝔥𝔶; 11 feb @ 21:43
Ursprungligen skrivet av box:
Ursprungligen skrivet av Guest In Disguise:
If not historical stop using historical people then.

You may be able to stop AI stealing your original work but you cant stop smol indie company exploiting historical facts.
they can explore historical facts but do so with sense and not bypass them just because it suits them
Senast ändrad av 𝔓𝔲𝔰𝔥𝔶; 11 feb @ 21:51
Ursprungligen skrivet av box:
Just go play EUIV.

Civ games were never about historical accuracy.
Serious ? - So explain to me what history involves, without civilizations, culture and leaders, without buildings, without achievements, without records, after all, what is CV
Senast ändrad av 𝔓𝔲𝔰𝔥𝔶; 11 feb @ 21:56
people really need to learn what "inspired by" means.
civ is inspired by history, that does not mean that it is historically accurate.
Ursprungligen skrivet av Central:
people really need to learn what "inspired by" means.
civ is inspired by history, that does not mean that it is historically accurate.
Ok it's just inspired Hmmm
https://civilization.2k.com/pt-BR/civ-vii/game-guide/civilizations/
So what they tell us about each culture is just an inspiration
... example from Spain
"Among the earliest European colonial powers, Spain was by far the largest and most influential empire. Iberia was divided between Muslim emirates and Christian kingdoms, but after the unification of Castile and Aragon, with the completion of the Reconquista, Spain dominated the global stage in the name of God and wealth. The empire faltered as its ambitions were challenged in Europe, and its distant colonies sought their own destinies."

Perhaps Portugal did not exist in this inspiration lol or maybe they just skipped a few years
Senast ändrad av 𝔓𝔲𝔰𝔥𝔶; 11 feb @ 22:19
Sião
Between the British colonial expansion in India and the French claim to Indochina, Siam emerged. This civilization slowly internalized and adapted colonial governance, incorporating parts of Laos, Lanna and Malaya, walking the fine line between Western norms and the maintenance of its Buddhist traditions and development into modern-day Thailand.

The inspiration will not be to romanticize some civilizations and hide others
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