Possible Solution to Crashes: WeMod or Cheat Engine

[Blackadar]

Apparently, the cause of some crashes *may* be having WeMod or CheatEngine even installed on your machine (not necessarily running). On prior 2K games this causes the 2K anti-cheat to kick in and shut down your game.

https://www.reddit.com/r/WWEGames/comments/1b71h7i/2k24_code_of_conduct_crash/

Now from a personal standpoint, 2K can eat my shorts if it thinks it gets to dictate what's installed on my PC on a single-player game. But if you're crashing this might be the cause. If someone has crashes and also has one of these two programs, if you uninstalled the cheat program and rebooted does Civ 7 still crash?

[captainjamesmartin]

Can confirm this is happening, I dont have either programme open

[Blackadar]

No doubt this isn't the only reason for the crashes but it seems likely that this may be a contributor towards them.

I'm hoping that someone with WeMod will uninstall it and see if they can play the game without it crashing. If they could then it's confirmed that the overly invasive 2K anti-cheat is causing some of the crashes.

[Celerybender]

Originally posted by Blackadar:

No doubt this isn't the only reason for the crashes but it seems likely that this may be a contributor towards them.

I'm hoping that someone with WeMod will uninstall it and see if they can play the game without it crashing. If they could then it's confirmed that the overly invasive 2K anti-cheat is causing some of the crashes.

I can confirm. Prior to uninstalling, would always CTD and open a CoC page on 2K's website.
After uninstalling, ive played about 5 hours over a couple of instances without issue.

I'm going to reinstall to double check

Reinstalled, and got the CoC webpage after about 2 minutes.

It must scan directories for software, because it occurs even without WeMod running.

[DarthBonziBuddy]

Don't have either installed, gonna leave a neg review till they fix.

[Blackadar]

Originally posted by Celerybender:

Originally posted by Blackadar:

No doubt this isn't the only reason for the crashes but it seems likely that this may be a contributor towards them.

I'm hoping that someone with WeMod will uninstall it and see if they can play the game without it crashing. If they could then it's confirmed that the overly invasive 2K anti-cheat is causing some of the crashes.

I can confirm. Prior to uninstalling, would always CTD and open a CoC page on 2K's website.
After uninstalling, ive played about 5 hours over a couple of instances without issue.

I'm going to reinstall to double check

Reinstalled, and got the CoC webpage after about 2 minutes.

It must scan directories for software, because it occurs even without WeMod running.

That's f-in insane. I'm a old gamer who uses WeMod for single player games because sometimes I need the help as my twitch skills are basically gone (you try playing Dark Souls with arthritis). That Civ 7 will not run with WeMod even installed isn't just a slap in the face to older gamers, it actually could be seen as an ADA violation.

[Tuxedoed bird]

i dont have either and it wont let me launch it they just ♥♥♥♥♥♥ it up and wont admit it

[Qoojo]

Originally posted by Celerybender:

Originally posted by Blackadar:

No doubt this isn't the only reason for the crashes but it seems likely that this may be a contributor towards them.

I'm hoping that someone with WeMod will uninstall it and see if they can play the game without it crashing. If they could then it's confirmed that the overly invasive 2K anti-cheat is causing some of the crashes.

I can confirm. Prior to uninstalling, would always CTD and open a CoC page on 2K's website.
After uninstalling, ive played about 5 hours over a couple of instances without issue.

I'm going to reinstall to double check

Reinstalled, and got the CoC webpage after about 2 minutes.

It must scan directories for software, because it occurs even without WeMod running.

I would suspect that those programs had a process/service running that you did not know about.

[Qoojo]

Google AI says, "Yes, WeMod does have background processes running even when you are not actively using it in a game;"

[Rykhath]

Originally posted by Qoojo:

Originally posted by Celerybender:

I can confirm. Prior to uninstalling, would always CTD and open a CoC page on 2K's website.
After uninstalling, ive played about 5 hours over a couple of instances without issue.

I'm going to reinstall to double check

Reinstalled, and got the CoC webpage after about 2 minutes.

It must scan directories for software, because it occurs even without WeMod running.

I would suspect that those programs had a process/service running that you did not know about.

WeMod when you close it doesn't actually close the process, it hides in windows taskbar as a background application. Similar to how MSI afterburner does. I have posted a thread listing all running applcations Ive found that are flagged by 2k.

I can confirm from testing, that 2K's new system on Civ7 doesn't scan files. It only scans memory for process names. There is so far a decent list of them that I've found both Linux and Windows based that are flagged and will invoke the Fair Play page and close the game. Easiest Solution, build the tools from source with different names, or in the case of WeMod...hope that WeMod figures out a way to morph its process name on every time its launched.

[DedAntiSocial]

I just opened wemod to test it because i've been noticing it. For certain, after i opened it, or Plitch, units stopped showing that they were moving and the game started crashing and the only way to fix it is to restart PC, even after closing they crash.I'm not using any cheat, i'm not even enabling them, but civ 7 has an "anti hacking the game" policy that should only be for multiplayer but it's causing the crashes still.

[MRemingtonB]

I found a solution. Open up your services after you've closed WeMod and force stop the two "Gaming Services" listed there. It should work now.