Releasing half a game?

[jcmeerman]

Based on the reviewers, are they releasing only part of the game?

I mean, leaders and CIV's are behind upcoming DLC (which was to be expected), but it looks like an entire era is also locked behind a DLC. That is 1/4 of the game.

Is this how they reward their loyal fanbase?

[Bozz 💀]

yes that's why I won't buy the game until it's at least 50% discounted.

[Mountain Man]

Originally posted by jcmeerman:

Based on the reviewers, are they releasing only part of the game?

No. It will be a complete game playable from beginning to end.

[guyan_de]

Yeah it's 100 % geared to sell micro transactions (not that micro) new ages, new civs, new leaders , same leaders but different skins, different maps, what was once base game features is now likely to be a transaction.

[katzenkrimis]

It's always the Steam level zeroes that want to torpedo video games before they are released.

If it's not at the bottom of the ocean before launch, they are not happy.

Gonna be some egg on their faces when this monster is finally let out of its cage.

[Rubs hands together]

Hee hee.

[Swisspike]

Originally posted by katzenkrimis:

It's always the Steam level zeroes that want to torpedo video games before they are released.

If it's not at the bottom of the ocean before launch, they are not happy.

Gonna be some egg on their faces when this monster is finally let out of its cage.

[Rubs hands together]

Hee hee.

This game will get smashed into kindling by the first ten thousand reviews. Then the kids need to get back to work at the car wash, or the fry station, and the adults can provide their HONEST reviews.

[jcmeerman]

Originally posted by Mountain Man:

Originally posted by jcmeerman:

Based on the reviewers, are they releasing only part of the game?

No. It will be a complete game playable from beginning to end.

There is a difference between a game being playable and a game being complete. I am referring to the latter, not the first.

Most Early Access games nearing their release date are playable. None are complete (as that would move them out of EA). Putting important parts of your game behind DLC means you release an incomplete game. And I am not talking about different features here. I am talking about a core mechanic of the game.

[Swisspike]

Originally posted by jcmeerman:

Originally posted by Mountain Man:

No. It will be a complete game playable from beginning to end.

There is a difference between a game being playable and a game being complete. I am referring to the latter, not the first.

Most Early Access games nearing their release date are playable. None are complete (as that would move them out of EA). Putting important parts of your game behind DLC means you release an incomplete game. And I am not talking about different features here. I am talking about a core mechanic of the game.

What "core mechanic" will be missing?

[Nagi]

Originally posted by katzenkrimis:

It's always the Steam level zeroes that want to torpedo video games before they are released.

I must point out, that steam shows Level 0 when you have your profile opened for friends only, even of you have 299+ level.

[Sstavix]

Sad that many developers are taking this approach. I have no problem waiting until they are done with the DLC nonsense and the final, complete, anthology edition comes out. I have plenty of other games to play in the meantime.

[Mountain Man]

Originally posted by Swisspike:

Originally posted by jcmeerman:

There is a difference between a game being playable and a game being complete. I am referring to the latter, not the first.

Most Early Access games nearing their release date are playable. None are complete (as that would move them out of EA). Putting important parts of your game behind DLC means you release an incomplete game. And I am not talking about different features here. I am talking about a core mechanic of the game.

What "core mechanic" will be missing?

I have no idea what he's talking about.

[Padds]

civ 5 was pretty bad until at least the first expansion civ6 was pretty rough to .

launch day is the worst a civ game ever will be. give it a few years and we will have all the missing ages, better transitions, historical civs and all the little stuff.

[Larkis]

Originally posted by jcmeerman:

Based on the reviewers, are they releasing only part of the game?

I mean, leaders and CIV's are behind upcoming DLC (which was to be expected), but it looks like an entire era is also locked behind a DLC. That is 1/4 of the game.

Is this how they reward their loyal fanbase?

its very very easy.

The Developer release a complete game

The Develover have plans for the future and a roadmap.

Cause the devs has a roadmap, doenst mean the game is incomplete on launch. They just plan for the future.

[Swisspike]

Originally posted by Larkis:

Originally posted by jcmeerman:

Based on the reviewers, are they releasing only part of the game?

I mean, leaders and CIV's are behind upcoming DLC (which was to be expected), but it looks like an entire era is also locked behind a DLC. That is 1/4 of the game.

Is this how they reward their loyal fanbase?

its very very easy.

The Developer release a complete game

The Develover have plans for the future and a roadmap.

Cause the devs has a roadmap, doenst mean the game is incomplete on launch. They just plan for the future.

These crybabies aren't going to be convinced by ANYTHING we say. They just whine ... because.

[jcmeerman]

Originally posted by Swisspike:

Originally posted by Larkis:

its very very easy.

The Developer release a complete game

The Develover have plans for the future and a roadmap.

Cause the devs has a roadmap, doenst mean the game is incomplete on launch. They just plan for the future.

These crybabies aren't going to be convinced by ANYTHING we say. They just whine ... because.

Civilization is about starting when hunter gatherers moved to farming and settling and ending with the here and now. That is not what this game is doing. No matter what the devs say. No matter how extensive their (DLC) roadmap is. The last era is missing. That makes it incomplete. Even Civ 1 moved well past the 2nd WW. And that was in a previous millenium.

[jcmeerman]

Originally posted by Swisspike:

Originally posted by jcmeerman:

There is a difference between a game being playable and a game being complete. I am referring to the latter, not the first.

Most Early Access games nearing their release date are playable. None are complete (as that would move them out of EA). Putting important parts of your game behind DLC means you release an incomplete game. And I am not talking about different features here. I am talking about a core mechanic of the game.

What "core mechanic" will be missing?

You might have missed it as the game cannot be played yet by ordinary people, but in CIv 7 the era's are a core mechanic. It is what the game revolves around. And the last era, the bridge between the 2nd WW and the here and now, is missing.