Replay value?

[Nozba]

I remember playing Civ II when it was released and loved it, but haven't really gotten back into the series on the recent editions. After playing quite a bit of Stellaris the last couple of years I was wondering what is really the replay value of playing a certain nation over again in Civ games? I imagine your starting location/country as i.e. Egypt will be the same each play through, and your neighboring nations would be the same as well each time? Or am I wrong?

[Acken]

Different map and different neighbours each time. With the ages you can also choose a different path in exploration and modern ages.

[Nozba]

Ah this is great news! I was worried you had a traditional world map with all the nations placed on their historical locations.

[Lëgënd]

No, there are quite a few maps with more likely to be added, and random spawns as well as leaders if you leave them on random. One of the best things of civ is that two games are never exactly the same just due to map, location, and who is around you. Finding Ghandi as a neighbor early on definitely has a different feel than having Ghengis or Shaka as a neighbor.

[Acken]

Originally posted by Nozba:

Ah this is great news! I was worried you had a traditional world map with all the nations placed on their historical locations.

The maps are randomly generated, you select the type of map you prefer like many islands or large continents.

[Oaks]

Just to crunch a few numbers:

Devs said one age will take about 3 or 4 hours to complete. So about 11 hours per game let's say, to complete all three ages.

Then you want to play each base game modern age nation at least once, so 11 hrs x 10 nations is 110 hours.

Or, let's say you want to level up all the leaders in the game. Let's say it takes three games (just a guess ) to level up a single leader. 26 leaders times 3 games is 78 games to level base game leaders up.

78 games times 11 hours per game is !!!!

I think there will be plenty of replay value

[katzenkrimis]

Originally posted by Oaks:

Devs said one age will take about 3 or 4 hours to complete. So about 11 hours per game let's say, to complete all three ages.

I'd agree with that, considering the game is unfinished.

However, many of these early access players are clicking their mouse and making decisions at lightning speed. Not everyone plays that way.

Typically, it took me three days to finish a Civ VI game, depending on how hard I was going at it each day.

A finished Civ VII game will likely take 15 hours or more.

If you are quick on the draw.

[Nozba]

Originally posted by katzenkrimis:

Originally posted by Oaks:

Devs said one age will take about 3 or 4 hours to complete. So about 11 hours per game let's say, to complete all three ages.

I'd agree with that, considering the game is unfinished.

However, many of these early access players are clicking their mouse and making decisions at lightning speed. Not everyone plays that way.

Typically, it took me three days to finish a Civ VI game, depending on how hard I was going at it each day.

A finished Civ VII game will likely take 15 hours or more.

If you are quick on the draw.

I usually take my time, I have no rush to complete games like these. I like to read stats, check out units and other stuff like that. I think some of my games in Stellaris was between 50-100 hours and this is a game played in real time (you could pause off course which I did often)

[seven_stars]

Holy cow, I usually play on epic or marathon speed. Takes a long time. Hope those options are still available.

[sprenkledavid]

The Civ series has always had excellent replay value, for the reasons people above have already given (plus, with leaders now detached from specific civs, the number of possible combinations to try has been magnified drastically). So lots of folks have racked up huge number of hours playing it. Great value for one's entertainment dollar.

[plaguepenguin]

There have been True Start Location (TSL) maps in prior versions, maps that try to represent the earth, or portions thereof, and start civs at their historical starting locations. There was even a mod for 6 that had civs start, in their historical locations, but also at their historical times.

That's all a pretty niche way to play the game. It's default is as others have described, random maps that are different every game, with a different cast of civs, yours and AIs'. You do get to choose the roster of civs in the game setup, but not where they are located relative to you.

I don't know if the game on release has any TSLs. I doubt it, both because I believe that in former Civ versions they were only released, often as mods, well after initial release, and because there are no huge maps yet, and TSLs become better representations of real geography the larger the map size.

[universecreep]

Originally posted by Oaks:

Just to crunch a few numbers:

Devs said one age will take about 3 or 4 hours to complete. So about 11 hours per game let's say, to complete all three ages.

Then you want to play each base game modern age nation at least once, so 11 hrs x 10 nations is 110 hours.

Or, let's say you want to level up all the leaders in the game. Let's say it takes three games (just a guess ) to level up a single leader. 26 leaders times 3 games is 78 games to level base game leaders up.

78 games times 11 hours per game is !!!!

I think there will be plenty of replay value :lunar2019grinningpig:

Agreed.

Typically I get over a 1000's hours from my Civ editions so well worth the price paid.

Even 100's hour of game play is still a good deal.