No Scandinavians/Vikings Leaders so far?

[ricky dicky doo dah]

:((((((

[grumble]

Normans are Vikings aren't they?

[katzenkrimis]

Originally posted by ricky dicky doo dah:

So far?

Those are the magic words.

Normans are in.

[ricky dicky doo dah]

But they didnt show us directly the vikings did they?

Originally posted by grumble:

Normans are Vikings aren't they?

[Sco10]

Normans are mentioned, but given that they unlock from Greece and Rome, I think they're treated as a French civ or at least post-viking one.
I think addding a viking civ is a given. Denmark was the first DLC for Civ 5 if I remember correctly (not counting mongols) and Norway was on launch in Civ 6 (and I remember they were played a lot early on due to their naval op-ness).

Personally I hope for a "Viking" or "Norse" civ based on Denmark and Norway, since Denmark had that navigable river invasion going in France and England, and Norway did exploration. If we go with actual nations though, I think Denmark would be best for antiquity vikings and Norway for Exploration vikings. Given Normandy are in exploration, and they were settled by Danish vikings, my bet is Antiquity (Denmark) into Exploration (Normandy / Sweden) into Modern (Finland) without Norway, as they were there last time, and as mentioned, Denmark fits better with navigable rivers and Normandy.

If they're diplomatic and don't want to upset us scandinavians (as they at least havn't had all 3 in the past), they go with Vikings into the Kalmar Union and dice roll on the modern civ, which will probably be Sweden since Denmark lost it's relevance internationally untill basically today at the Napoleonic era.

[ricky dicky doo dah]

Originally posted by Sco10:

Normans are mentioned, but given that they unlock from Greece and Rome, I think they're treated as a French civ or at least post-viking one.
I think addding a viking civ is a given. Denmark was the first DLC for Civ 5 if I remember correctly (not counting mongols) and Norway was on launch in Civ 6 (and I remember they were played a lot early on due to their naval op-ness).

Personally I hope for a "Viking" or "Norse" civ based on Denmark and Norway, since Denmark had that navigable river invasion going in France and England, and Norway did exploration. If we go with actual nations though, I think Denmark would be best for antiquity vikings and Norway for Exploration vikings. Given Normandy are in and they were settled by Danish vikings, my bet is Antiquity (Denmark) into Exploration (Normandy / Sweden) into Modern (Finland).

If they're diplomatic and don't want to upset us scandinavians (as they at least havn't had all 3 in the past), they go with Vikings into the Kalmar Union and dice roll on the modern civ, which will probably be Sweden since Denmark lost it's relevance internationally untill basically today at the Napoleonic era.

I would love to play again as Ragnar Lodbrok as a leader:D But I don't mind again playing Hardrada

[colostmy4]

Normans are descended from Vikings, but culturally they are more French and not really Viking any more. Much in the way I'm of German descent, but I'm not really a German, I'm an American.

[Amethyst_Cat]

It would make sense, historically speaking, to have one of the Scandinavian nations as the progenitor to the Normans. Whether that should be Norway or Denmark is a toss of the coin.

[lmr]

I feel you, I'm a big fan of vikings and I wish they were in at launch. Hopefully there'll be a viking civ somewhere in the first year of dlc.

[Ascend]

Originally posted by grumble:

Normans are Vikings aren't they?

Norwegians and Danes where the vikings .

[Guest In Disguise]

Originally posted by Ascend:

Originally posted by grumble:

Normans are Vikings aren't they?

Norwegians and Danes where the vikings .

Meanwhile swedish was Vikingr different from vikings (just norse version of a somali pirate)

[Sco10]

Originally posted by Guest In Disguise:

Originally posted by Ascend:

Norwegians and Danes where the vikings .

Meanwhile swedish was Vikingr different from vikings (just norse version of a somali pirate)

Swedish vikings were indeed vikings, they just had nothing to do with the raids of England, Paris or the discovery of Iceland-Greenland (and America/Vinland). The Swedish vikings called the "Rus" (yes they did give the name to who you think they did) performed a lot of trading (and raiding) in the baltic and slavic world all the way to Persia through the river networks to the caspian sea. "Vikingr" is just how people would say Viking in old norse i guess, it's definitely NOT a distinction of Swedish vikings. We're not even sure if the word "viking" was a word used contemporarily, or if it was just a misassociation given to them by English munks.

But making a viking civ solely based on Sweden would be a mistake IMO. People want the vikings due to the well known feats of the Danish and Norwegian vikings.

[Nightshade878]

'Viking' wasn't a civilisation, it was a profession. And not even the most interesting part of Early-Medieval Scandinavian society at that.

[colostmy4]

Viking was something you did. Not everyone from the Scandinavian countries went viking or pirating as we would say today.

[Sco10]

Originally posted by Nightshade878:

'Viking' wasn't a civilisation, it was a profession. And not even the most interesting part of Early-Medieval Scandinavian society at that.

You're wrong, sorry. In the official Danish dictionary, "viking" is the term for a citizen of Scandinavia in the early-Medieval ages. Definitely not a profession. We're not even sure if the word "viking" was a word used contemporarily, or if it was just a misassociation given to them by English monks.

I am extremely interested in hearing from you what could possibly be more interesting about Scandinavia in the viking age than the conquest of england and discovery of greenland/america.

[colostmy4]

Originally posted by Sco10:

Originally posted by Nightshade878:

'Viking' wasn't a civilisation, it was a profession. And not even the most interesting part of Early-Medieval Scandinavian society at that.

You're wrong, sorry. In the official Danish dictionary, "viking" is the term for a citizen of Scandinavia in the early-Medieval ages. Definitely not a profession. We're not even sure if the word "viking" was a word used contemporarily, or if it was just a misassociation given to them by English monks.

I am extremely interested in hearing from you what could possibly be more interesting about Scandinavia in the viking age than the conquest of england and discovery of greenland/america.

actually both may be right and wrong.
https://theconversation.com/what-does-the-word-viking-really-mean-75647
I myself learned from the school of thought that it was something you did.