Not enough civilizations for historical paths

[MENGE_TM]

It seems, that all of the Antiquity Age civilizations[www.civilization.2k.com] have been revealed.

Since I do prefer to play civs that are closely historically connected to playing random or loosely connected civs throughout the ages, I am quite disappointed in the Antiquity Age civs. For Europe, there are only Rome and Greece, and for Eastern Asia only the Han. This means that for playing the French, English or Germans, I will always have to go through Rome, and if I want to play Korea or Japan, I need to go through Han / China.

This is really unacceptable, awkward and destroys any replayability for what I like to play. The slogan "Build what you believe in" is quite a joke in that regard.

[johnarhoades]

There are more leaders and civs, if we "buy in" to the upper packages. They have plenty to use, just updating prior Civs. Amborix as leader for a Germany or France comes to mind.

[MENGE_TM]

Originally posted by johnarhoades:

There are more leaders and civs, if we "buy in" to the upper packages. They have plenty to use, just updating prior Civs. Amborix as leader for a Germany or France comes to mind.

Even Civilization VI did start with 20 civilizations, that is double the number of civilizations for CIV VII for each age. Since those are not playable throughout all ages anymore, it is foolish to just multiply them by 3 and pretend that there will be 30 civs in CIV VII. This will also lead for games with 8 players to be really repetitive, since the same civs will be in every game, especially if e.g. French, English and German leaders follow the "historical" path and all start as Rome.

This is really disappointing. In my opinion, there should be a direct and unique path for each modern civilization in the base game, so that players will be able to sort of opt-out of switching civs. Expecting us to pay more for the game to be playable is ridiculous.

[hannibal_pjv]

DLCs and MODs…

[SLG]

The base game will launch with 30 civilizations.

[MENGE_TM]

Originally posted by Lee:

The base game will launch with 30 civilizations.

For all three ages, that is only 10 per age, half of what CIV VI did start with. Playing the game will be very repetitive because of that. What makes me really angry though, is that they only include a full path for India and China, while Germany, Japan, France and Great Britain get none for some reason.

[SLG]

Originally posted by MENGE_TM:

Originally posted by Lee:

The base game will launch with 30 civilizations.

For all three ages, that is only 10 per age, half of what CIV VI did start with. Playing the game will be very repetitive because of that. What makes me really angry though, is that they only include a full path for India and China, while Germany, Japan, France and Great Britain get none for some reason.

We do not know what future civilizations will be.

I do not see it being repetitive unless you play the same civilizations in each game.

[SLG]

What do you mean by the statement about Rome? There is Greece.

[Truffie]

What if it's a 12 > 10 > 8 formula for Civs? With the Shawnee it's 31 Civs in total. It would also make sense why they've been saying multiplayer can only have 5 players at the moment.

[johnarhoades]

I'm appreciating this too few point more of late, primarily with multiplayer. The best improvement is the near-double cost for founder to get 8 more civs. That's a budget cruncher. I would work OT to cover but I don't get OT from my government compensation.

[Alkahest]

Originally posted by johnarhoades:

I'm appreciating this too few point more of late, primarily with multiplayer. The best improvement is the near-double cost for founder to get 8 more civs. That's a budget cruncher. I would work OT to cover but I don't get OT from my government compensation.

You don’t get eight more civs in the day one, they said the Right to Rule collection dlcs will be released on or by September 2025, one by one, so Founders edition buyers will get four additional civs not eight on day one.

[Whakahoatanga]

There are always civs which are going to be missing in the base game. On the other hand, we have already civs from Europe, North America, Asia and Africa in the base game so far confirmed, which is great. Really looking forward to plays as Misssissippians for the very first time e.g. I hope as well that many of the civs which were added in Civ 6 for the first time are going to make a comeback, as I loved the selection they had.

I'm sure they'll add DLCs with more civs and mods will also come to add more civs. The way Civ 7 is made is actually quite flexible. I have no experience in modding civ but I guess that without having to do a leader, modding might be slightly easier.

[Many-Named]

Originally posted by MENGE_TM:

It seems, that all of the Antiquity Age civilizations[www.civilization.2k.com] have been revealed.

Since I do prefer to play civs that are closely historically connected to playing random or loosely connected civs throughout the ages, I am quite disappointed in the Antiquity Age civs. For Europe, there are only Rome and Greece, and for Eastern Asia only the Han. This means that for playing the French, English or Germans, I will always have to go through Rome, and if I want to play Korea or Japan, I need to go through Han / China.

This is really unacceptable, awkward and destroys any replayability for what I like to play. The slogan "Build what you believe in" is quite a joke in that regard.

OP the game is supposed to feel repetitive and samey because they want to upsell you on the founder edition and dlc's.

[Wilhelm]

same as OP. you are 100% right on this.

[Oaks]

10 per for each age seems a little low. I usually play European nations in these games simply because I know the most about their history. If you want to be Germany or Franch or England and you want to be somewhat historical, seems you need to start with Rome or Greece. Not super thrilled with this.

[Alkahest]

"Build what you believe in" really isn't the best slogan for the game lol