Sid Meier's Civilization VII

Sid Meier's Civilization VII

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Gar101 Jun 11, 2024 @ 2:58pm
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Cartoon Graphics
Please end the cartoon graphics it was the only reason I didn't buy the game just can't understand why Civ series took this route it looks extremely childish and frankly extremely unrealistic for a serious historical strategy civilisation builder.
It was a major step backwards as far as Im concerned
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Bad Karma Jun 12, 2024 @ 4:41am 
Agreed! However, they've already settled on a style by now and we'll have to look to the workshop for graphical overhauls to bring back some realism.
PET Jun 16, 2024 @ 1:32am 
I love the Civ VI art style. I hope they will continue this trend.
Maichevsky Jun 16, 2024 @ 9:49am 
Originally posted by Bad Karma:
Agreed! However, they've already settled on a style by now and we'll have to look to the workshop for graphical overhauls to bring back some realism.
how do you know? are there screenshots available?
Maichevsky Jun 16, 2024 @ 9:50am 
cartoony graphics suck ass!!
flyingltj Jun 17, 2024 @ 3:45pm 
Originally posted by Gar101:
Please end the cartoon graphics it was the only reason I didn't buy the game just can't understand why Civ series took this route it looks extremely childish and frankly extremely unrealistic for a serious historical strategy civilization builder.
It was a major step backwards as far as Im concerned

Just speculation, but in the world of business they do focus groups before releasing products. It's very possible that a person was hired on into a management role without any experience or background in the field of video games or Civ and put into a position of handling the focus groups. And while being inexperienced and ignorant as to the subject matter, made certain assumptions that later created bias in the results.

Certain possibilities become plausible such as "Children play video games, so we should have X% of our focus group be below the age of 13" or "People under the age of 13 spend X% more annually on video games so we should weigh their results more heavily."

Naturally leading to bias results such as "The focus groups did not like the graphics. The focus groups responded on their questionnaires that they enjoy the graphics of [game 1] [game 2] and [game 3] so we should go back to the art department and have them retool the graphics to better suit the desires of the customers."

And just because I'm confident you see where my line of thought is going, and I don't feel like typing it all out... art dept hired on at lowest possible wage, draws whatever they want to just get a paycheck, unqualified management pats themselves on the back for making decisions, clueless executives feel confidence because their unqualified management underlings are doing something, marketing spins it like they always do, media rubber-stamps whatever they're paid to rubber-stamp publish, and there's your finished product.

All because a person without any experience or background in the field of video games or Civ was hired on.
Berserk Belta Jul 7, 2024 @ 3:58am 
Originally posted by Gar101:
Please end the cartoon graphics it was the only reason I didn't buy the game just can't understand why Civ series took this route it looks extremely childish and frankly extremely unrealistic for a serious historical strategy civilisation builder.
It was a major step backwards as far as Im concerned
Agreed. I don't mind them trying to freshen up the formula as there have been a lot of civ games at this point and it can be a bit samey, but the cheaper graphical style was a swing and a miss for me.

I even tried to get past the graphical style and play it anyway, more than once, but it's basically off-putting and I found myself not choosing Civ VI. Mobile game vibes.

If they really wanted to do revitalise the franchise, the combat has been crying out for a touch more depth for many years. It wouldn't have to be a gigantic combat game like Total War etc. Something where the units are still abstract but the interaction is interesting (like eg: Age of Wonders: Planetfall) would be more than sufficient.
Grim_Jim666 Jul 7, 2024 @ 4:25am 
Id rather them even go back to the FMV adviser videos.
I did not enjoy the goofy looking cartoon characters. They seemed to get cruel with some of the toonish adaptations.
I dont want my war units to look "cute"
PHOBIE Jul 7, 2024 @ 5:10am 
Compare to a good wine. Wine in a glass bottle. Or a live opera. By the time we've all been bombarded with low-cost entertainment to the point of debilitation, we may realize that nobody remembers how to make high quality product and there are no role models left.

The expectation of the industry to believe in their own advertising has blinded them to that they are doing the whole circus for the players, not to convince themselves.

"User demand" turned "units sold", but it's not what people want: It's what they buy when there's nothing else. It keeps innovation artificially low and questions critical economics.
Last edited by PHOBIE; Jul 7, 2024 @ 5:11am
vexviron Jul 7, 2024 @ 5:22am 
Surprise! Another post about cartoon graphics. I hope the civ devs are listening this time. Anyways, I support the OP in this discussion. How can you take anything in the game seriously if it looks like a Pixar movie?
Maichevsky Jul 7, 2024 @ 6:12am 
Originally posted by vexviron:
Surprise! Another post about cartoon graphics. I hope the civ devs are listening this time. Anyways, I support the OP in this discussion. How can you take anything in the game seriously if it looks like a Pixar movie?

Don't get your hopes up, this version is going to have a release on Switch too, simpler graphics work better on a small screen. We might never get a Civ game with decent more modern graphics again, so that is kinda depressing :) Civ 5 forever I'm afraid!
MeniliteZ Jul 7, 2024 @ 10:35am 
Originally posted by Grim_Jim666:
I did not enjoy the goofy looking cartoon characters. They seemed to get cruel with some of the toonish adaptations.
I dont want my war units to look "cute"

I don't believe any units looked cute. They looked more like animation than the crowds of Civ 5, yes. And Civ 6 units also had far more complex animations, which should be a plus. Civ 5 was crowds running at each other and hammering. Civ 6 units actually had some weapon skills.

I didn't notice any cruelty with the leaders either. If they had done severe unrealistic caricature, that would have been unacceptable yes. The only one I can think of that came close was Gilgamesh, and since (I think) we have no actual data on what he looked like except for "big muscles" that one was understandably caricature. But cruel? Looked more like a compliment to me.
Tdawg Jul 7, 2024 @ 11:26am 
Yes please not cartoony graphics
Oleander Hume Jul 8, 2024 @ 7:29am 
I dont care of graphism ! I just want rounded numbers to be rounded correctly in every popup/screens/reports ...

Yield computation still broken every where since release ...
I stopped to play because of that ONLY ...
For a game where figures matters this is not acceptable ...
Last edited by Oleander Hume; Jul 8, 2024 @ 7:30am
ein Jul 8, 2024 @ 9:35am 
Political caricatures predate children's cartoons by hundreds of years, they are present in every Civilization game still in print, and in any case Civ has been straight up videogame since the beginning. While you were serious historical simulating in Eastern Front and Perfect General, we were shelling Hannibal's elephants from our submarines off the coast of Antarctica. For a more realistic alternative, I recommend Alpha Centauri.
Kell Jul 8, 2024 @ 11:52am 
Originally posted by Gar101:
Please end the cartoon graphics it was the only reason I didn't buy the game just can't understand why Civ series took this route it looks extremely childish and frankly extremely unrealistic for a serious historical strategy civilisation builder.
It was a major step backwards as far as Im concerned

100% agree,
played 1-5, skipped 6, hoping for 7
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