Turn based again?

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

Dont get me wrong im kinda happy with every 40K Game Anouncement. I simply can not understand that Developers are so narrow Minded that they see nothing else as turn based when it comes to 40K. Why not an ARPG with some tactical Aspects, something like Red Solstice. Or a Game like 40K Space Marine, the Emperor knows many are still waiting for a worthy Sequel to it. Why again Turn based Strategy, the Market if full of these Games, why nothing new?

To all who are happy with this Announcement, hey good for you i dont hate you for that. But its really like this when you go through the List of 40k Games 70% or 80% are fu..ing Turn based and that comes on Top of all the other Turn based Games that are released nearly every Day. Im so tired of it that i sometimes get angry when just read the Words Turn based. On one Hand i hope Fatshark take their Time to make DT good on the other Hand i cant wait.

The Emperor protects ... not always

[Zebedee]

Games released this year for 40k are:

Dakka Squadron (first person shooter)
Necromunda Hired Gun (first person shooter)
Darktide (first person co-op shooter)
Battlesector (turnbased)

and an unannounced title from Saber Interactive (who in the past have mainly made first person shooters).

Have I missed any? edit: oh yeah, forgot about Adeptus Titanicus: Dominus which is turnbased too.

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

Originally posted by Zebedee:

Games released this year for 40k are:

Dakka Squadron (first person shooter)
Necromunda Hired Gun (first person shooter)
Darktide (first person co-op shooter)
Battlesector (turnbased)

and an unannounced title from Saber Interactive (who in the past have mainly made first person shooters).

Have I missed any? edit: oh yeah, forgot about Adeptus Titanicus: Dominus which is turnbased too.

Yeah you know as good as i that DT and N:HG are 2 extrem Exeptions and im very happy about them specially about DT as you can see in my Name. Dakka on the other Hand does not really count for me personally, i dont take it serious as a 40K Game.

I just wonder why a Developer Team these Days thinks "hey we have not enough Turn based 40K Games, lets make one" instead of thinking "hey there are not so many 1P 3P 40k Games or ARPGs lets make one" Thats what i dont understand.

As i said im not here for hating, im just tired of Turn based 40K Games and wish Devs would focus more on the other Genres finally. I just hope that with DT and N:HG that finally starts to happen and other Devs finally see the real Potential in 40K.

Peace

[Zebedee]

Originally posted by evil#W40K/Darktide:

Yeah you know as good as i that DT and N:HG are 2 extrem Exeptions and im very happy about them specially about DT as you can see in my Name. Dakka on the other Hand does not really count for me personally, i dont take it serious as a 40K Game.

I just wonder why a Developer Team these Days thinks "hey we have not enough Turn based 40K Games, lets make one" instead of thinking "hey there are not so many 1P 3P 40k Games or ARPGs lets make one" Thats what i dont understand.

As i said im not here for hating, im just tired of Turn based 40K Games and wish Devs would focus more on the other Genres finally. I just hope that with DT and N:HG that finally starts to happen and other Devs finally see the real Potential in 40K.

Peace

For sure on it being a strange year for having a few shooters out, I was just wondering what made you think there was a load of turn based games for 40k coming out. Figured I may have missed some.

I think some of it, say for last year, is that it's converting things from the tabletop makes more sense as turnbased. Like last year, all three turnbased games were attempts to remake a tabletop game (the fourth game was a VR fps). 2019 was an RTS and an ARPG only.

Agree with you that seeing some ARPGs would be a nice thing. Blackstone Fortress done that way might be sweet. Although I'm not sure makers of strategy games are the right place to make a request for one!

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

Another Thing is that it seems to be Space Marines and Imperium again. I could make another Thread about that but i wont. Its really like the Majority of the 40K Community is only able to see the following Things "Turn based or real Time Strategy, Space Marines and Orks". If you are lucky you sometimes get Eldar or Tyranids as Enemy, maybe Drukhari but thats it. When will we finally play as Tyranids or Drukhari in a Video Game? Do i have to wait another 50 Years till that happens, or will it never happen at all? Why is there no Developer who has the Guts to make something real new finally? Now we have the Soft and Hardware to make everything real finally and Developers still come up with the same S..t over and over.
I really hope that changes soon when it comes to 40K, im so tired to play the same Stuff again and again.

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

Originally posted by Zebedee:

Originally posted by evil#W40K/Darktide:

Yeah you know as good as i that DT and N:HG are 2 extrem Exeptions and im very happy about them specially about DT as you can see in my Name. Dakka on the other Hand does not really count for me personally, i dont take it serious as a 40K Game.

I just wonder why a Developer Team these Days thinks "hey we have not enough Turn based 40K Games, lets make one" instead of thinking "hey there are not so many 1P 3P 40k Games or ARPGs lets make one" Thats what i dont understand.

As i said im not here for hating, im just tired of Turn based 40K Games and wish Devs would focus more on the other Genres finally. I just hope that with DT and N:HG that finally starts to happen and other Devs finally see the real Potential in 40K.

Peace

For sure on it being a strange year for having a few shooters out, I was just wondering what made you think there was a load of turn based games for 40k coming out. Figured I may have missed some.

I think some of it, say for last year, is that it's converting things from the tabletop makes more sense as turnbased. Like last year, all three turnbased games were attempts to remake a tabletop game (the fourth game was a VR fps). 2019 was an RTS and an ARPG only.

Agree with you that seeing some ARPGs would be a nice thing. Blackstone Fortress done that way might be sweet. Although I'm not sure makers of strategy games are the right place to make a request for one!

For me its really like this when i go through my Queue >>>

Turn based, Turn based, Japan RPG, Turn Based, Turn Based, 40k Turn based, Japan RPG, and then something else xD

Yeah i know i could change my Queue Settings. This on the other Hand will not change that Devs will keep making one TB Game after another.

In my Opinion we need more "GOOD" 1P 3P and ARPG Games, again good ones not half baked ones.

Im dont want to lie, deep Inside of me i also hope for a 40K MMO some Day well knowing that the Chances for that are more then tiny.

[Zebedee]

Originally posted by evil#W40K/Darktide:

For me its really like this when i go through my Queue >>>

Turn based, Turn based, Japan RPG, Turn Based, Turn Based, 40k Turn based, Japan RPG, and then something else xD

Yeah i know i could change my Queue Settings. This on the other Hand will not change that Devs will keep making one TB Game after another.

In my Opinion we need more "GOOD" 1P 3P and ARPG Games, again good ones not half baked ones.

Im dont want to lie, deep Inside of me i also hope for a 40K MMO some Day well knowing that the Chances for that are more then tiny.

Yeah, I'd definitely recommend using those filters if that's all you're seeing.

You're right about ARPGs just generally. I suppose they're expensive to do to quality expected and so many of them just haven't landed very well with their audiences over the past few years. Inquisitor-Martyr seems to have done well for a Diablo-esque style of ARPG so perhaps some hope from there in the future.

Anyways, go poke Inquisitor-Martyr's makers to make something interesting for their next game! Doubt it'll be an MMO either though.

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

Originally posted by Zebedee:

Originally posted by evil#W40K/Darktide:

For me its really like this when i go through my Queue >>>

Turn based, Turn based, Japan RPG, Turn Based, Turn Based, 40k Turn based, Japan RPG, and then something else xD

Yeah i know i could change my Queue Settings. This on the other Hand will not change that Devs will keep making one TB Game after another.

In my Opinion we need more "GOOD" 1P 3P and ARPG Games, again good ones not half baked ones.

Im dont want to lie, deep Inside of me i also hope for a 40K MMO some Day well knowing that the Chances for that are more then tiny.

Yeah, I'd definitely recommend using those filters if that's all you're seeing. :Gorkanaut:

You're right about ARPGs just generally. I suppose they're expensive to do to quality expected and so many of them just haven't landed very well with their audiences over the past few years. Inquisitor-Martyr seems to have done well for a Diablo-esque style of ARPG so perhaps some hope from there in the future.

Anyways, go poke Inquisitor-Martyr's makers to make something interesting for their next game! Doubt it'll be an MMO either though. :LordCommissar:

Ha ha ha Neocore the Makers of Inquisitor Martyr have a new Game, guess what it is ... yeah right a Turn based Medieval Fantasy RPG im not kidding xD

Here the Link: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1157390/King_Arthur_Knights_Tale/

Like i said TB TB then Japan RPG then something else and then again TB TB TB xD

I do ofc understand that these TB Games are cheaper to make compared to 1P or 3P Action Games with big detailed Game Worlds. But if a Studio has the Money, they should really go for it, we need more of these Games, specially in the 40K Franchise.

The Emperor protects

[Zebedee]

Hahaha. Doh. Pain and pleasure.

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

^^ exactly xD

[Ammo Donkey]

To answer your initial question as to why make something that there is a bunch of when you could be making something new instead:

Because people want more of it. That's why there already is a bunch of it. People play it, like it, and then want more of it.

I'm with you, I'd love to see some other games. 40k tactical rpgs, for example. Heck, a Rogue Trader game that combines tactical rpg, turnbased strategy strategy and battlefleet gothic armada style space combat into one would be my absolute dream. But people like turn-based strategy, and it's literally the main thing the publisher and the devs are known for, so, hey.

[Grim@FU_BARRACUDA]

im out

[nimrock]

Hey Darktide!
I am happy with this one being turn based.
Sanctus Reach was great game and Battllesector looks much like it with much better visuals and much more possibilities with faction expansions.
They found a good formula and they stick to it.
Also making real time strategy or shooter reqires much more cash and asfaik Slitherine is experienced with startegy games.
I don`t want it to turn into CP2077 couse developers tried to make something they never did before.
There are other WH40k games comming.
Darktide looks promissing and Fatshark have a good forumula with Vermintide.
There is also Necromunda Hired gun that is bit more concerning form me couse of publishers.

[Kenjamenace]

Originally posted by 40% effort:

To answer your initial question as to why make something that there is a bunch of when you could be making something new instead:

Because people want more of it. That's why there already is a bunch of it. People play it, like it, and then want more of it.

I'm with you, I'd love to see some other games. 40k tactical rpgs, for example. Heck, a Rogue Trader game that combines tactical rpg, turnbased strategy strategy and battlefleet gothic armada style space combat into one would be my absolute dream. But people like turn-based strategy, and it's literally the main thing the publisher and the devs are known for, so, hey.

This is pretty much the reason, the shooter genre is a much larger demographic for sure but most of people that play shooters are playing things like CoD and the like and most likely will ignore the WH games. On the flip side, the turn based games just appeal to a niche audience BUT its an audience that will have a much larger buy rate.

[maedden]

I absolutely hate it when people that dislike turn based games come on the forums for these games and complain .... do not let the door hit you on the way out!
I personally cannot have enough turn based games and this one even has me interested in the 40k franchise which usually is not my cup of tea....

[Arasine]

Complaining that a WH40k game is turnbased is like complaining that Pizza is Italian imo. Nothing wrong with wanting variety ofc, but the only way to get the WH40k feel is to have the time to plot and weigh up your moves without a clock ticking. Like the difference between art and speed art, you will never get the artists true vision if you constrain and limit him to 'must be done in 10 seconds'