Saving the sisters in " The Battle for Angels Fall" is near impossible!!!

[Terron]

I have finished this game on normal difficulty and this game had 3 Damsel in distress missions. The first one was easy as you had enough time to reach the sisters before the warriors killed them off, in the second one i was forced to pull them and sister verity back from the crash site before they got killed and the crash site got destroyed.

In Battle for Angels Fall you got 7 Sisters surrounded by 1 Tyrannofex, 2 Tervigons and 2 Exocrines and most of them already die in the first turn. There is no feasible way to reach them in time before they get killed off(at least on harder difficulties) which sucks because each sister you save gives you one bonus point. It took me 4 turns to reach them with my 3 landspeeders and 2 turns to kill the Tyrannofex and Exocrines.

[SnakePigeon]

I am also struggling to complete this mission while saving the sisters. Loving the game so far, but this mission is a bit unsatisfying to me because I really want to save my allies.

[fluxtorrent]

on normal i saved 6/7. Killed the tervigon first round. If you have the blessed ammunition and focus all 7 on them it worked out pretty well, one got splashed by the exoricines but the other one missed. after that i just ran them towards my forces since they dont have to hold the plaza. Second round was grenades against the swarms to clear the path

[GeneralGonzo]

Originalmente postado por Edmon:

I played this mission on the hardest difficulty and managed to save 4/7.

I think on an easier difficulty it might be possible to save them all.

You need to avoid fighting at all costs, because they don't have the weapons to achieve anything.

You can use one squad as bait while you rush the rest out via the south, that is what I did. I lost a further two in the dash to get out.

The other trick is to hide in the top corner, this buys you time to get carleon and/or plasma inceptors across the map to assist.

Is that really the way missions are designed? To playperfectly a nearly undoable route to get 4 out of 7 alive ?

Devs - rethink it just for a moment ,.....

[SnakePigeon]

Originalmente postado por fluxtorrent:

on normal i saved 6/7. Killed the tervigon first round. If you have the blessed ammunition and focus all 7 on them it worked out pretty well, one got splashed by the exoricines but the other one missed. after that i just ran them towards my forces since they dont have to hold the plaza. Second round was grenades against the swarms to clear the path

I was trying to put the big guys down that way, but only 5 of the sisters can use the blessed ammo since Seraphim don't get that ability. They seem to average around 40 dmg when using blessed ammo. 5 sisters doing 40ish dmg means its approximately 200 dmg on the enemy. The Tyrannofex that starts on top of you has 380 hp and blessed round have a 3 turn cool down. Without blessed rounds or grenades you can't injure the thing, so it doesn't seem possible to kill it in 1 round unless I am missing something.

If you turtle up in the top left corner, you can avoid some of the enemies but that Tyrannofex will follow you up there. It seems very difficult to save all 7, but I really want to pull it off.

[fluxtorrent]

yeah i wouldnt bother with the tyranofex, thats why i focused on the tervigon, its in the path out and its not quite as hearty.

Originalmente postado por GeneralGonzo:

Originalmente postado por Edmon:

I played this mission on the hardest difficulty and managed to save 4/7.

I think on an easier difficulty it might be possible to save them all.

You need to avoid fighting at all costs, because they don't have the weapons to achieve anything.

You can use one squad as bait while you rush the rest out via the south, that is what I did. I lost a further two in the dash to get out.

The other trick is to hide in the top corner, this buys you time to get carleon and/or plasma inceptors across the map to assist.

Is that really the way missions are designed? To playperfectly a nearly undoable route to get 4 out of 7 alive ?

Devs - rethink it just for a moment ,.....

You only need to get 1 out alive to get the bonus so whats the complaint? You want a cakewalk easy game?

[SnakePigeon]

Originalmente postado por fluxtorrent:

yeah i wouldnt bother with the tyranofex, thats why i focused on the tervigon, its in the path out and its not quite as hearty.

Originalmente postado por GeneralGonzo:

Is that really the way missions are designed? To playperfectly a nearly undoable route to get 4 out of 7 alive ?

Devs - rethink it just for a moment ,.....

You only need to get 1 out alive to get the bonus so whats the complaint? You want a cakewalk easy game?

Even the Tervigon has 350 hp, so it seems like its not possible to kill it in 1 turn?

I have 4 of the 7 sisters alive in my current run, hopefully I can keep one until the end.

[fluxtorrent]

Originalmente postado por SnakePigeon:

Originalmente postado por fluxtorrent:

yeah i wouldnt bother with the tyranofex, thats why i focused on the tervigon, its in the path out and its not quite as hearty.


You only need to get 1 out alive to get the bonus so whats the complaint? You want a cakewalk easy game?

Even the Tervigon has 350 hp, so it seems like its not possible to kill it in 1 turn?

I have 4 of the 7 sisters alive in my current run, hopefully I can keep one until the end.

I managed it, so it is, though to be fair it was technically killed on its own turn, as it moved through the control zone of the seraphim I had next to it.

[Doctor Orion]

Here, It can be done! Sure, I did it on the easiest difficulty, but it's at least possible.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2684710597

[Dommo]

On normal I saved 5/7 by rushing most squads out Westwards, sending other units (speeders, carleon, librarian, incepters, assault squads...) on maximum rush. One got flattened by the cannon, the other melted by acid.
I did have the survivability upgrades on the sisters, but no blessed ammo, didnt bother really trying to do damage. Maybe people would feel less aggrieved if the mission in these circumstances is rephrased more like "save at least some of them" way so they don't expect to be able to make them all live...

[alexisneverlate]

Beat that on Leutenant from the first try with 7/7.

Played without save-scumming and took the sub optimal route with the bulk of my army.
Started by running east with all sisters, using walls as cover and throwing nades at swarm units, ignoring the big ones.

Sacrificed my Assault Terminator unit (it teleported) to hits of two Tervigons, that bought some time, then distracted their main army with mine. (A few sisters were only few hitpoints away from death by that time)

I believe that would not be possible unless the sisters had upgraded health.

So far that has been the most fun mission in the entire game.. and the Terminator unit was the first one i've lost throughought the whole campaign. Worth it though.

[MeToLee]

that is by far the only mission I didnt like in this game. it feels like you are set to fail.

[Lex]

Having a mission with odds that bleak seems pretty fitting for the 40k universe. Baal wouldn't be in this state if Space Marines would finish every mission without losses just because the mission description said so.

[guy_incognito___]

Originalmente postado por MeToLee:

that is by far the only mission I didnt like in this game. it feels like you are set to fail.

Not set to fail. As far as I remember, saving the SoB troops is the secondary objective of that mission and you can still win it if all of them die, but you exterminate the Nids. You just won't get any of the 7 possible bonus points for the mission.

And I would argue it's absolutely intentional that you loose some of the Sisters during that mission (as long as you don't play on easy difficulty or absolutely perfectly). I managed to save 3 in company captain the last time I played the mission and I made mistakes for sure. So I would say saving 4-5 on the hardest difficulty should be possible. Maybe even 7 if you either save scum or have insane RNG luck on the Exocrine shots.

[xDaunt]

Originalmente postado por guy_incognito___:

Originalmente postado por MeToLee:

that is by far the only mission I didnt like in this game. it feels like you are set to fail.

Not set to fail. As far as I remember, saving the SoB troops is the secondary objective of that mission and you can still win it if all of them die, but you exterminate the Nids. You just won't get any of the 7 possible bonus points for the mission.

And I would argue it's absolutely intentional that you loose some of the Sisters during that mission (as long as you don't play on easy difficulty or absolutely perfectly). I managed to save 3 in company captain the last time I played the mission and I made mistakes for sure. So I would say saving 4-5 on the hardest difficulty should be possible. Maybe even 7 if you either save scum or have insane RNG luck on the Exocrine shots.

Yeah, I think you can reliably save 4-5 on company captain. I saved four in my current playthrough, and I was pretty sloppy about it, letting multiple sisters get shot by the tyrannofex on a single turn. Just keep the sisters' spacing good and pull them back to the top left corner of the map as you rush your forces along the bottom to relieve them from the south. I had a couple of assault terminator squads with me that were equipped with the hammer and shield, so I was able to yolo them into relieving the sisters fairly aggressively.

[MetLyfe]

To everyone complaining about the inevitable devastation of our Sisters, forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.