The same devs who made dishonoured made THIS???

[MatterRacc]

Bro im sorry, but if you worked on any of the dishonored titles, and then your career led to the creation of this game with your name on it, you should be ashamed.

[breadman]

no, this is the dev that made prey

dishonored was made by arkane lyon

[MatterRacc]

well steam just categorises them under "arkane studios" so easy mistake to make i guess

[Ser Hexenkartothek]

The only thing at that studio left from anyone who made dishonored is probably an uncleanable turd steak in the toilet bowl. The entire team of actually talented devs have gone elsewhere.

[breadman]

Originally posted by Hexenkartothek:

The only thing at that studio left from anyone who made dishonored is probably an uncleanable turd steak in the toilet bowl. The entire team of actually talented devs have gone elsewhere.

no, dishonored was made by arkane lyon, not arkane austin

those studios aren't even on the same continent

[Leylin Archeron]

no, this is a Microsoft studio, not the same anymore

[ComicalRock]

Originally posted by breadman:

Originally posted by Hexenkartothek:

The only thing at that studio left from anyone who made dishonored is probably an uncleanable turd steak in the toilet bowl. The entire team of actually talented devs have gone elsewhere.

no, dishonored was made by arkane lyon, not arkane austin

those studios aren't even on the same continent

This is correct, real question is how did Prey's developers who made some of the coolest character cutscenes in real game time like that weird lense thing that let us see a recording in 3D somehow decide stick figures with veins and powerpoint storytelling was good. Like why did we take all the worst aspects of Deathloop(AI and guns) and made a whole game dependent on those issues but took away the good cutscenes. Deathloop was boring to me honestly, but I enjoyed the design and story, Redfall gave me what i disliked in deathloop and took away what I did. All fairness, map is cool though, well designed, people hate on art style, I like it, music independently is actually good, but the way it works in gameplay is atrocious like they were on completely different game ideas in their conception. This game actually had potential to be great, playing it I see that it could of been, but that makes the obvious rushed issues more apparent, they started a project they worked hard on half way or maybe a quarter way and then rush jobbed it in the end, either running out of time, ideas, money, or passion.

[Mentally Unstable]

The name of the company remains but people come and go all the time. Staff resign, move on to other companies, pass away. New blood with different ideas, attitudes and skills come in. As such, I won't be surprised if none of the original crew that made dishonoured is left.

Case in point, the bioware of now is only bioware in name. Very few of the orignal team that made the first mass effect and dragon age are left. Heck, even the founders left long ago after selling to EA.

[breadman]

Originally posted by Mentally Unstable:

The name of the company remains but people come and go all the time. Staff resign, move on to other companies, pass away. New blood with different ideas, attitudes and skills come in. As such, I won't be surprised if none of the original crew that made dishonoured is left.

the big names in arkane austin are all the same people

and again, dishonored has nothing to do with this studio

[Mentally Unstable]

Originally posted by breadman:

the big names in arkane austin are all the same people

Same as in same as over 11 years ago? Most of them even? Really?

Not just the big names, I'm talking about the rest of the team as well because they are the ones who do most of the heavy lifting.

[Mentally Unstable]

Originally posted by breadman:

and again, dishonored has nothing to do with this studio

I'm talking about in general. Even if it had been them, it would not have been the "same" people that made the dishonoured. That's why I talked about people coming and going all the time.

[breadman]

Originally posted by Mentally Unstable:

I'm talking about in general. Even if it had been them, it would not have been the "same" people that made the dishonoured.

how many times does it have to be said?

DISHONORED WAS MADE BY ARKANE LYON, NOT ARKANE AUSTIN

two different studios in two different countries

Originally posted by Mentally Unstable:

Same as in same as over 11 years ago? Most of them even? Really?

yes

[Mentally Unstable]

Originally posted by breadman:

how many times does it have to be said?

You seem to be missing the point of what I was talking about which was that regardless of which company made it, most of the people in said company would likely not be the same as the ones that made the old games long ago. THAT'S TO SAY, THE POINT IS THE PEOPLE WHO MADE THE GAME, NOT THE NAME OF THE COMPANY OR WHICHEVER BRANCH(IE LYON/AUSTIN) MAKING IT.

Hence, "in general".

[breadman]

the people who made dishonored were never there to begin with as it was developed by an entirely different studio

dishonored/deathloop == arkane lyon

prey/redfall == arkane austin

[Mentally Unstable]

Originally posted by breadman:

the people who made dishonored were never there to begin with as it was developed by an entirely different studio

dishonored/deathloop == arkane lyon

prey/redfall == arkane austin

You still don't get it. I'm not talking about Arkane lyon in relation to redfall. I was speaking generally that regardless of which x/y/z once famous company made it, it would likely not be the most of the same people(individuals) that made the original games that brought the company fame, especially if it had been a long time since then.

Hence even IF (operative word) Lyon Arkane made the game, it is not a guarantee that it would have been good because most of the staff that made the original dishonored could no longer be around. IE. Yes, it's not made by Lyon but even IF it had been, it might not necessarily have been better due to the aforementioned question about whether most of the original staff remained at that point in time.

By the way, it seems like Arkane Austin did work on the original dishonoured. To what extent, I do not know

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dishonored

The full Arkane team—including their offices in Lyon, France, and Austin, Texas—worked on the game

It's only 2 and outsider that were largely solely developed by Lyon because Austin was busy with prey at that time.