Redfall

Redfall

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BeanTheWaif Jun 6, 2023 @ 12:12am
Honestly a bit afraid for Arkane
Considering Redfall was a complete failure, and Microsoft's trigger happy tendency to axe developers after something doesn't make them enough money, this could potentially be the beginning of the end for Arkane Austin.
Granted, all the people behind Prey were fired long after that game released.
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Cahalith Jun 6, 2023 @ 3:52am 
I feel you. I've been an Arkane fan since Arx Fatalis and they were the last high-profile developer I still trusted to make good games (needless to say: pretty much the last high-profile dev to bother making imsims, as well).

But to be honest: I'd prefer to see Arkane go down in flames with the memory of all the awesome games they made previously, rather than see the studio continue to churn out uninspired open world shooters. That's not what I loved Arkane for and we definitely don't need another studio selling us the exact same type of game everyone else already does.

So let's see what Arkane have in store for the future - but let's also be open to the idea that sometimes, its better for a studio to close down instead of tarnishing their own name for years to come.
M.O.S.S Jun 6, 2023 @ 5:59am 
Originally posted by Your Tanuki Girlfriend:
Considering Redfall was a complete failure, and Microsoft's trigger happy tendency to axe developers after something doesn't make them enough money, this could potentially be the beginning of the end for Arkane Austin.
Granted, all the people behind Prey were fired long after that game released.

This is called a job, if you don't make a product that sells and you lose money. A company does not guarantee your employment. Arkane is a name of a developer, and the people behind it know that they are supposed to make a game that sells. Mismanagement or not the truth is at this point an $80 dollar game didn't live up to the cost. They lost money for Microsoft and the investors who are NOT a charity. IF the studio is shuttered then so be it, the developers will be pushed into other studios.
Last edited by M.O.S.S; Jun 6, 2023 @ 6:00am
Dark Sun Gwyndolin Jun 6, 2023 @ 7:15am 
Originally posted by M.O.S.S:
Originally posted by Your Tanuki Girlfriend:
Considering Redfall was a complete failure, and Microsoft's trigger happy tendency to axe developers after something doesn't make them enough money, this could potentially be the beginning of the end for Arkane Austin.
Granted, all the people behind Prey were fired long after that game released.

This is called a job, if you don't make a product that sells and you lose money. A company does not guarantee your employment. Arkane is a name of a developer, and the people behind it know that they are supposed to make a game that sells. Mismanagement or not the truth is at this point an $80 dollar game didn't live up to the cost. They lost money for Microsoft and the investors who are NOT a charity. IF the studio is shuttered then so be it, the developers will be pushed into other studios.

It wasn't Arkane's idea to make an open-world Jiminy Cockthroat live service game instead of the immersive sims they were known for. Redfall could never have been a good game.
Its fine since 70% of the original team is gone, that why the game sucks. If this is what the "team" can produce they should be fired.
oz Helix oz Jun 6, 2023 @ 8:57am 
Originally posted by Your Tanuki Girlfriend:
Considering Redfall was a complete failure, and Microsoft's trigger happy tendency to axe developers after something doesn't make them enough money, this could potentially be the beginning of the end for Arkane Austin.
Granted, all the people behind Prey were fired long after that game released.

they did not get fired, they just left
Swamp Fox Jun 6, 2023 @ 9:06am 
Arkane Austin is already over, the developers left.
Originally posted by HashSlingingSlasher:
Its fine since 70% of the original team is gone, that why the game sucks. If this is what the "team" can produce they should be fired.

So what are the executives going to do? Fire a team of rookies for not being able to perform after all the veterans left... and replace them with a team of rookies?

It's becoming a serious problem at many AAA companies, being unable to retain staff. Blizzard is probably the most egregious example, with them having to cut the promised PvE mode in Overwatch 2 because everyone they assigned to work on it kept quitting.
thee.alemaozinho Jun 6, 2023 @ 3:38pm 
As others said, the Arkane (i.e., the creative minds and developers behind it) that gave us Prey is definitely gone. So Arkane (Austin) is finished either way, because developers interested in making those kind of single-player immersive sims will not going to work for Arkane any more.
DCid Jun 6, 2023 @ 5:30pm 
The original people who created Arkane are gone and probably starting their own studio.

All the current employees are clueless, incompetent rookies with zero experience and almost no talent and creativity.

Bury the entire studio because its already dead.
Veni_Vidi_Vici Jun 6, 2023 @ 5:31pm 
Yup, things are not looking good for them.
Blackout Jun 6, 2023 @ 5:54pm 
This is the same situation as Obsidian, were all the people who made Fallout New Vegas have moved on. Arkane has gone in the same direction were the group the produced Dishonored 1, Dishonored Two, and Prey are long gone.

We get stuck with the leftovers..
Originally posted by Fear Denies Faith:
Redfall could never have been a good game.

It only came to be to sell the idea of an open world coop shooter being developed by Arkane to MS.
Last edited by 󠁳⁧⁧ Kuroimaho; Jun 7, 2023 @ 12:20am
Krytor Jun 7, 2023 @ 2:37am 
This is why publishers need to beta test the product they receive from their developers to ensure the quality of products that they represent. Is the hammer going to come down, I sure there will be repercussions, people fired, departments reorganized. What I know personally is... when the sh*t hits the fan, it will not be evenly distributed.
Nothing of value would be lost
SirBrutal Jun 8, 2023 @ 12:16am 
probably organising the closure as we speak hence no patches. Not even a comment from them.
Last edited by SirBrutal; Jun 8, 2023 @ 12:17am
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