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What did Arkane do exactly to piss off the anti-woke fanatics?
Considering the game hasn't even launched yet, the sheer volume of frothing outrage on this forum confuses me.

Is this really because there's only one white guy on the cover? Like it cannot be that easy to summon the swarm.
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LoboFH původně napsal:
scum původně napsal:
no way this thread is full of smug people saying it isnt woke. just look at the cover art lol
you are being disingenuous like usual
What's wrong in that cover for you, strange folks?, 3 white persons and one black female is not enough caucasian for you?

I don't think Scott Adams would be safe in that neighborhood.
Iced Lenin původně napsal:
the black woman just needs a smaller haircut, it takes up like 90% of the screen and they put it in all the screenshots

Seriously expecting a momma blue bird to poke its head out of her hair and cheep. lol
Naposledy upravil ThornZ; 30. dub. 2023 v 20.10
How on earth can anyone take anti-woke seriously? This just gay panic and the anti-PC crowd rebrading after they fell out of popularity.
I'm a straight white man that works on an offshore lobster boat ffs. i cant stand new disney star wars, and i'm against the pandering woke culture just as much as the next straight white guy but for ♥♥♥♥♥ sake... i admit the playable characters for redfall to me don't seem all that appealing but the game is still right up my alley and I'm excited for it. i dont care that one of the playable characters is black, ones spanish, ETC. Don't give a single ♥♥♥♥. So far from what I've seen of the story, lore, and game play, it looks interesting and has my attention. i'm a fan of arkane, immersive sims, co op, open world, and looter shooter games. also it takes place in new england where I just happen to live currently.

There are valid criticisms to be made about this title, always online DRM, no cross progression, 30 fps lock for xboxers, late review embargos, ETC. but none of that means the game is going to be bad or lack quality. Is it a cause for concern? could it possibly be terrible? Absolutely. does it make me a piece for ♥♥♥♥ for buying the game? I reckon so but you know what? steam has this nifty little feature where you can refund a game for almost any reason within a two hour period. won't take me but an hour to figure out if it's for me or not.
Badwolf původně napsal:
How on earth can anyone take anti-woke seriously? This just gay panic and the anti-PC crowd rebrading after they fell out of popularity.

In all fairness and honesty, stuff like this kind makes woke philosophy look like a joke. I mean, how could you take anybody like this seriously?

https://youtu.be/zxvyeZa1YSI

I for one appreciate people like this letting me know upfront. It makes it as clear who I need to stereotype and marginalize through incompatible personalities, under the modern definition of course.

Selective association is a human right after all, and as long as I hire the right "culture fit" people, there isn't a problem.

That's the answer you were fishing for, correct?
BeefSupreme původně napsal:
Badwolf původně napsal:
How on earth can anyone take anti-woke seriously? This just gay panic and the anti-PC crowd rebrading after they fell out of popularity.

In all fairness and honesty, stuff like this kind makes woke philosophy look like a joke. I mean, how could you take anybody like this seriously?

https://youtu.be/zxvyeZa1YSI

I for one appreciate people like this letting me know upfront. It makes it as clear who I need to stereotype and marginalize through incompatible personalities, under the modern definition of course.

Selective association is a human right after all, and as long as I hire the right "culture fit" people, there isn't a problem.

That's the answer you were fishing for, correct?

Wait what? Woke philosophy doesn't exist. The term woke has been repurposed to mean whatever conservatives don't like, there isn't much of a definition to it anymore. I don't know anyone in my LGBTQ groups that actually identifies as that.

Mind you videos like this go out to college campuses where they can find people with the least developed retorts so they can find as little push back as possible. Asking students who just graduated high school to defend their right to exist is just absurd and cowardly.

Anti-woke is not self identification, it's the opposite because it's used to hide what kind of anti you really are. People anti-PC where really just anti-being called out for racism, and during the gay panic they identified as concerned parents when they were really anti-gay people being out of the closet. It's pretty obvious what anti-woke people are actually 'anti' about.
Badwolf původně napsal:
Wait what? Woke philosophy doesn't exist. The term woke has been repurposed to mean whatever conservatives don't like, there isn't much of a definition to it anymore. I don't know anyone in my LGBTQ groups that actually identifies as that.

Mind you videos like this go out to college campuses where they can find people with the least developed retorts so they can find as little push back as possible. Asking students who just graduated high school to defend their right to exist is just absurd and cowardly.

Anti-woke is not self identification, it's the opposite because it's used to hide what kind of anti you really are. People anti-PC where really just anti-being called out for racism, and during the gay panic they identified as concerned parents when they were really anti-gay people being out of the closet. It's pretty obvious what anti-woke people are actually 'anti' about.

Do you really believe that? Those "conservatives" over there or "progressives" over there taking sides, with some lurking and seeking to harm people, using left and right and twisted Nepolean era terminology of pro and anti-authority as jistification?

Woke was the slogan for a decade, and if you claim it doesn't exist, I'm okay with thay. For a lot of people, it's a general statement describing anyone who doesn't believe in equality and individualism, or selective racism as a means to an end.

You can navigate through complicated analysis, put mindsets into lanes, and lecture how individualism is harm and beliefs are static, however, truth is much simpler than that. There is no moral superiority here.

The wealth and powerful are deconstructing the world to build a new one. It's about resources, over-population, managing the offshoot of sustainable development. So when I hear a proud mother in the office talking about transitioning her son into a daughter, I am thankful in a way that that wasn't my generation.

It's really eye opening when you listen to credible people talking about the issies, and the sad part is that they are right. I don't cite nuts either... these people set policy and advise governments.

This was an interesting one. So many powerful people with truth bombs, and most people don't even know it exists.

https://youtu.be/VCz-DHPR1Vs
StarryEyes původně napsal:
I'm a straight white man that works on an offshore lobster boat ffs. i cant stand new disney star wars, and i'm against the pandering woke culture just as much as the next straight white guy but for ♥♥♥♥♥ sake... i admit the playable characters for redfall to me don't seem all that appealing but the game is still right up my alley and I'm excited for it. i dont care that one of the playable characters is black, ones spanish, ETC. Don't give a single ♥♥♥♥. So far from what I've seen of the story, lore, and game play, it looks interesting and has my attention. i'm a fan of arkane, immersive sims, co op, open world, and looter shooter games. also it takes place in new england where I just happen to live currently.

There are valid criticisms to be made about this title, always online DRM, no cross progression, 30 fps lock for xboxers, late review embargos, ETC. but none of that means the game is going to be bad or lack quality. Is it a cause for concern? could it possibly be terrible? Absolutely. does it make me a piece for ♥♥♥♥ for buying the game? I reckon so but you know what? steam has this nifty little feature where you can refund a game for almost any reason within a two hour period. won't take me but an hour to figure out if it's for me or not.

arkane has been pushing woke since dlc of dishonored, deathloop, and now this redfall game.

i personally thought dead island 2 would be woke too till they finally advertise more than 1 character to play and at least i get to play as a asian female.

I ain't buying redfall till the 75% off sale.
What exactly was woke about Deathloop? Was it the black protagonist? But Colt was an almost caricature goofy black dude from any 90s action movie. As anti-woke as it gets.
Naposledy upravil NONAME; 30. dub. 2023 v 22.49
What's "Anti Woke"
Check your boxes.
Baby Ghoul původně napsal:
Nothing really.

They're like locusts.

They'll infest the steam forums of the next major release after this if that dares to feature more than just a white guy on the cover art or a generic half naked woman.

Unfortunately there's an ecosystem of content creators and influencers out there that have convinced a small, but vocal, portion of the population that the reason their lives are miserable is because more than just someone they can directly identify with is featured in media. The grifters make money off of repeatedly upsetting them.

They'll call anything woke, and if it fails commercially they'll claim a victory, and if it's commercially successful they'll quietly move onto the next thing.

This one is a weird one though because I also didn't really understand why they were here at first, but it just seems like they're grasping at straws for anything at the moment. This one guy made a post about how a character is secretly trans because of her hand size? Truly one of the most lost people I've come across.

What I found so funny was if you look at a lot of these guy's profiles they're playing games like Cyberpunk 2077 and Elden Ring, which both do not shy away from delving into the topic of gender, and yet they're out here obsessing about a stylized character's hand size in a looter shooter.

Mfers out here with zero media literacy, but I guess that's the truth behind those "Thank you for being great non political games" memes.

People that talk about price, always online requirement, denuvo, host-only progression, and gameplay are making valid criticisms so it's all bad.

elden ring is about gender? lol okay....
This thread is embarrassing. Imagine buying into and caring about first-world culture wars, even moreso in videogames lol. Especially from some dude with an anime profile pic lmao. :steambored:
Naposledy upravil principal eunuch; 1. kvě. 2023 v 0.00
Badwolf původně napsal:
BeefSupreme původně napsal:

In all fairness and honesty, stuff like this kind makes woke philosophy look like a joke. I mean, how could you take anybody like this seriously?

https://youtu.be/zxvyeZa1YSI

I for one appreciate people like this letting me know upfront. It makes it as clear who I need to stereotype and marginalize through incompatible personalities, under the modern definition of course.

Selective association is a human right after all, and as long as I hire the right "culture fit" people, there isn't a problem.

That's the answer you were fishing for, correct?

Wait what? Woke philosophy doesn't exist. The term woke has been repurposed to mean whatever conservatives don't like, there isn't much of a definition to it anymore. I don't know anyone in my LGBTQ groups that actually identifies as that.

Mind you videos like this go out to college campuses where they can find people with the least developed retorts so they can find as little push back as possible. Asking students who just graduated high school to defend their right to exist is just absurd and cowardly.

Anti-woke is not self identification, it's the opposite because it's used to hide what kind of anti you really are. People anti-PC where really just anti-being called out for racism, and during the gay panic they identified as concerned parents when they were really anti-gay people being out of the closet. It's pretty obvious what anti-woke people are actually 'anti' about.

I think the principals behind whatever people see as "woke" are admirable, inclusion for whatever sexual preference a person might have, their skin color, all abide strictly by common sense policies. The issue is that in practice, whenever someone is supposedly "woke", it's basically inclusion by exclusion and they'll start some racist rant against white people and then comes in the sexism vs men etc. If people would profess what they would preach being "woke" wouldn't be considered a negative, why would it.

Obviously you'll have bad apples everywhere, especially since conservatives are quick to jump on this "anti woke" train, but when the same people who profess inclusivity turn out to be racists, a lot of that message is lost and you lose a support in your attempted execution.

Like in warcraft, there's no strong males in the newest WOW expansion, I tried to say how I would like at least one person in the game that I too, could identify with, as understandably it also helped me enjoy the game, for the same reason why other people want representation. As a response to my question, the amount of racist and sexist remarks I received were astounding.
If it's one rule for you, and another for me, then you'll probably lose my support, for a message that I actually fully endorse as it's not right to treat people differently or have people left out.
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