Ultimate FH4 or Base Game FH5?

[Nontendo❁]

Looking to purchase one. Base game of 5 is similar price to ultimate 4.
Predominantly playing on deck at the moment.

[AmsterdamHeavy]

Ultimate FH4, my opinion

[Szymon257]

No idea how they work on deck but i like FH4 a lot more.

[CyberF2077]

Fh5 if you have 8cores cpu and RTX2060 minimum, and Fast SSD.

[hogaN.]

Ultimate FH4 without question.

[Jase]

Forza 4 despite the Steam listing, isn't Playable on the Deck for me and several others.

It'll run just fine for the first few hours, then crashes start, you'll be very lucky to even manage to get to a race. Myriad audio issues too.

(And yes, reinstalled, tried desktop mode, various versions of Proton including experimental and GE.)

[SgtScum]

Originally posted by Jase:

Forza 4 despite the Steam listing, isn't Playable on the Deck for me and several others.

It'll run just fine for the first few hours, then crashes start, you'll be very lucky to even manage to get to a race. Myriad audio issues too.

(And yes, reinstalled, tried desktop mode, various versions of Proton including experimental and GE.)

I think that most casual players will find a few hours worth of racing more than enough since I assume rebooting allows you several more hours of play again?

[Jase]

Originally posted by SgtScum:

I think that most casual players will find a few hours worth of racing more than enough since I assume rebooting allows you several more hours of play again?

No, I meant the very first hours of the game run, the bit where you (are supposed to) progress rapidly through the four seasons.

I did summer no problem, but haven't been able to get through winter. Load the game up, drive about four foot from your house and the game freezes. And if it doesn't you'll maybe manage a single race if you are lucky enough to reach it in the first place before it crashes again.

There is obviously some compatibility issue with the Steam Deck.

[SgtScum]

Ah I see. Well hopefully they get that worked out. Have you submitted a bug report?

[Jase]

I have yes, but the attitude was "if it worked and now it doesn't it's not the game at fault."

I totally understand modern games are complex and have to run on many different systems with different specs, but it's massively annoying to waste money like this, especially when it's one of the main reasons I wanted a Steam Deck.

I'm loathe to risk Forza 5 now.

[smidlee]

Have you tried to increase Swap files size on your deck to see if that worked?

[smidlee]

I'm now in the winter with no crashes . I'm using proton ge 3.37 and have a 16 gb swapfile instead on the 1gb. (16 GB maybe too large but I have the space on my SSD) I've noticed the game pauses for severe seconds a few times during autumn.
(Others suggested increasing the swapfile size a few weeks ago when RDR 2 was crashing)

[Jase]

Originally posted by smidlee:

I'm now in the winter with no crashes . I'm using proton ge 3.37 and have a 16 gb swapfile instead on the 1gb. (16 GB maybe too large but I have the space on my SSD) I've noticed the game pauses for severe seconds a few times during autumn.
(Others suggested increasing the swapfile size a few weeks ago when RDR 2 was crashing)

Excuse my technical ignorance (I had a Switch before getting the Steam Deck, never been a PC gamer) but that's done through Linux, right?

I had a quick Google on swap files and feel this could be a bit of a learning curve. Thank you for the tip!

[smidlee]

Never mind. It started to freeze when I went to one of the islands. Also If I try to do a replay and it froze. I do feel it's due to GPU and CPU using the same ram. The freezes are a lot more likely when the CPU and GPU is using around 15.5 Gb of it's 16 Gb ram.
The increase swapfile probably helped as I was able to move around far in the winter.
I had already increase the swapfile with RDR 2.

P.S After I reload the game it went to spring . Obviously a bug. I also lost fast travel to fortune Island on the map but still can fast travel in the menus. I think the game itself have bugs. I paid more attention to the ram used on the island and it's over 16 GB of ram.

[SgtScum]

Sounds like the steam deck needs 32gb of ram then to satisfy both the cpu and gpu needs.

[Jase]

@smidlee - ah, I'm sorry to hear that, I'd hoped you'd found the fix.

I'm was nearly through winter, but gave up because I am struggling to even get to a race. My problems started with audio going silent, engine sounds and voices. Sort of fixed by making sure Echo-cancel-sink wasn't ticked and turning volume up to 100% (still very quiet.)
The crashes started when I unlocked the Flying Scotsman race.

The store lists it as needing 8gb with 12 recommended, but what you and @SgtScum say sounds very plausible. Certain conditions causing a spike in memory demands over the Steam Deck capability?
Not something I'd imagine will be patched out. I'm very loathe to take a risk on FH5 in case it has the same issues.