No VR no way.

[SirPorkinz]

Did the developers not have any Windows Mixed Reality headsets? seems crazy being a Microsoft product and all.

[Mno]

K bye

[Wybrem]

Originally posted by SirPorkinz:

Did the developers not have any Windows Mixed Reality headsets? seems crazy being a Microsoft product and all.

Nobody uses VR, and for those who did, like me, they know it's almost impossible to run Minecraft in VR let alone such a complex looking game as this.

[Juki]

Originally posted by Wybrem:

Nobody uses VR, and for those who did, like me, they know it's almost impossible to run Minecraft in VR let alone such a complex looking game as this.

Racing games are like THE use-case for VR. Dirt rally, project cars 2 - hell, even GTAV with the VR and wheel mod is amazing to drive around in VR.

[Wybrem]

Originally posted by jukibom:

Originally posted by Wybrem:

Nobody uses VR, and for those who did, like me, they know it's almost impossible to run Minecraft in VR let alone such a complex looking game as this.

Racing games are like THE use-case for VR. Dirt rally, project cars 2 - hell, even GTAV with the VR and wheel mod is amazing to drive around in VR.

I know, I bought VR but then sold it in a few months because there are NO games for it. None. Just indie trash and bad car simulators with 5 frames per hour on a rtx2080 at 4K resolution Quest 2. I agree car games are THE games for VR, but VR is not ready for prime time yet.

[Juki]

Indie trash? What are you smoking?

Star wars squadrons, elite dangerous, project cars, assetto corsa, dirt rally 1+2 - these are all awesome seated experiences in VR and they're certainly not indie games.

They're all smooth as silk on the index with a 3080, besides you don't HAVE to run on max settings. I never understand why people so vehemently argue against supporting certain peripherals in games, it's so bizarre. There's a huge gap in the VR space for a good arcade racer and I know a ton of people would jump on this with VR support.

[jack.anderson19]

Originally posted by Wybrem:

Originally posted by jukibom:

Racing games are like THE use-case for VR. Dirt rally, project cars 2 - hell, even GTAV with the VR and wheel mod is amazing to drive around in VR.

I know, I bought VR but then sold it in a few months because there are NO games for it. None. Just indie trash and bad car simulators with 5 frames per hour on a rtx2080 at 4K resolution Quest 2. I agree car games are THE games for VR, but VR is not ready for prime time yet.

This is the main reason I never bothered with VR . That and I don't want to wear crap on my head . I have several computers that can run the games . Just until VR is matured , why bother .

[Soft Kleenex]

Originally posted by Wybrem:

Originally posted by jukibom:

Racing games are like THE use-case for VR. Dirt rally, project cars 2 - hell, even GTAV with the VR and wheel mod is amazing to drive around in VR.

I know, I bought VR but then sold it in a few months because there are NO games for it. None. Just indie trash and bad car simulators with 5 frames per hour on a rtx2080 at 4K resolution Quest 2. I agree car games are THE games for VR, but VR is not ready for prime time yet.

You have a 2080 and only got 5fps in driving games? Were you trying to do 16X AA or something? Either that or you're grossly exaggerating the performance which is not helping with having an actual discussion. Something might be conflicting in your system if you're getting such poor performance with a 2080.

[Wybrem]

Originally posted by jukibom:

Indie trash? What are you smoking?

Star wars squadrons, elite dangerous, project cars, assetto corsa, dirt rally 1+2 - these are all awesome seated experiences in VR and they're certainly not indie games.

They're all smooth as silk on the index with a 3080, besides you don't HAVE to run on max settings. I never understand why people so vehemently argue against supporting certain peripherals in games, it's so bizarre. There's a huge gap in the VR space for a good arcade racer and I know a ton of people would jump on this with VR support.

Starwars, I did not try, Elite Dangerous is indie trash or at least it runs like indie trash. Project cars is not a REAL vr game, it runs like trash and I consider it indie trash. Assetto Corsa another indie trash. Runs like trash, looks like trash.

It may not actually be indie, but I consider everything that's not AAA, indie. Which is often just trash.

[Wybrem]

Originally posted by jack.anderson19:

Originally posted by Wybrem:

I know, I bought VR but then sold it in a few months because there are NO games for it. None. Just indie trash and bad car simulators with 5 frames per hour on a rtx2080 at 4K resolution Quest 2. I agree car games are THE games for VR, but VR is not ready for prime time yet.

This is the main reason I never bothered with VR . That and I don't want to wear crap on my head . I have several computers that can run the games . Just until VR is matured , why bother .

Ye I got a severe headache within 5 minutes, and dizzy spells after long use. There is nothing you can do about that. I bought straps and all, but it's just pure trash on your head. Plus you need a sound headset on as well.... lol. Extremely heavy, short FOV and extremely poor resolution (Quest 2 4K). It's also way to bright imo and now way to tone that down. And indeed, VR itself is VERY cool, but it's gonna be a LONG, LONG time before it's matured.

I'll prolly jump in when:
-There are plenty open-world AAA racing games that perform good at 120hz.
-The resolution is 16K with high-end rendering where the eye focus.

It's seriously poor atm. I don't even understand how Valve Index users cope with that 1999 poor ass resolution.

[Wybrem]

Originally posted by Soft Kleenex:

Originally posted by Wybrem:

I know, I bought VR but then sold it in a few months because there are NO games for it. None. Just indie trash and bad car simulators with 5 frames per hour on a rtx2080 at 4K resolution Quest 2. I agree car games are THE games for VR, but VR is not ready for prime time yet.

You have a 2080 and only got 5fps in driving games? Were you trying to do 16X AA or something? Either that or you're grossly exaggerating the performance which is not helping with having an actual discussion. Something might be conflicting in your system if you're getting such poor performance with a 2080.

Nah, I got more then 5. But it's extremely poor all things considered. It was EXTREMELY hard to get a stable 90+ fps in Project Cars, Assetto Corsa etc at 2K per eye.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=me22vo29h2A&t=27s
Sub 60fps Project Cars 2. Extremely poor graphics settings, low usage of the RTX2080. But cpu framtimes were lower meaning somehow it's to much for the 2080 or something. Of course on the Index resolution it works somewhat, but that's so poor, good god.

Assetto Corsa was the ONLY racing game to be playable at a stable 90+fps. However it was extremely low settings and just looked poor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kGNBJJZZZ4&t=75s
IF it was open-world I would've kept the headset for that tho, it was fun enough.

It was great to stream VR wirelessly tho, would never wanna go back to wires and I noticed nothing of the 40ms delay, but I'm used to high delays on my main monitor which is mainly a work monitor.

[Marco]

I personally do not recommend using VR in these type of games, it will give you motion sickness.

[Bravo6x]

I literally use VR only for car driving games. No motion sickness here. And i'm very sad to hear that FH4 still don't have VR support. Well... i guess no buy for me then.

[DRUNK_CANADIAN]

Racing games without VR is pointless imo.

Its like why even bother playing Forza 4 when Forza 1,2, and 3 exist. VR is the future of racing games period. And not having optional support for it is just lazy.

[jack.anderson19]

Originally posted by DRUNK_CANADIAN:

Racing games without VR is pointless imo.

Its like why even bother playing Forza 4 when Forza 1,2, and 3 exist. VR is the future of racing games period. And not having optional support for it is just lazy.

Understandable . This also may be part of the reason sales are down across the board for racing games - people aren't compelled to buy them . Other reasons IMO is poor efforts on many lately .

[Thorstorm]

Originally posted by DRUNK_CANADIAN:

Racing games without VR is pointless imo.

Its like why even bother playing Forza 4 when Forza 1,2, and 3 exist. VR is the future of racing games period. And not having optional support for it is just lazy.

No it's not, it will be the future when VR is worth it, I have the Oculus S and I don't even bother with it anymore, the resolution is simply disgusting (and no the Index isn't much better) especially at long distance, I'd rather have better graphics and play with TrackIR.