Stuttering is unbearable. The game is nearly unplayable

[threepfac]

The game is unplayable with the stuttering. I've paid a lot for the game and it's been on my wishlist for years, but this is a huge disappointment.
I've tried EVERY SOLUTION on the internet. Changed every setting, frame rate, updated all drivers, I've read every topic on all forums and it cannot be solved. This happens to people with AMD, NVIDIA and it's all over internet. The steam version is not working fine.
It's clearly a game problem, the stuttering seems to be random, sometimes it works fine for hours but it starts again with no reason. It's not a graphic problem, it seems to be more like a network problem on this particular Steam version.
The worst part is that I cannot refund it now, just because I've surpassed the two hours range (mostly trying to fix it). Very disappointed with this, it's a kwown problem since march and they still are selling the game, it's nearly a scam.

[LordOfTheBread]

Messaggio originale di Andran:

There are clearly some systems can run both versions fine, and some systems that can run the Microsoft but not the Steam version flawlessly. I don't see what's so difficult to understand here.

Common sense, its so rare in these forums.

[Nomster]

Messaggio originale di Andran:

There are clearly some systems can run both versions fine, and some systems that can run the Microsoft but not the Steam version flawlessly. I don't see what's so difficult to understand here.

I am pretty sure that there are exactly 0 systems, that can run the steam version fine.
We collectively have so many different system configurations and tried a lot of software "fixes", that the likelihood of this being caused by some external factor is getting slimmer by the minute.

As of this day, no official response from the dev team, so my conclussion can only be, that someone there decided "meh, good enough, we are literally incapable of fixing this"

[LordOfTheBread]

Messaggio originale di Nomster:

Messaggio originale di Andran:

There are clearly some systems can run both versions fine, and some systems that can run the Microsoft but not the Steam version flawlessly. I don't see what's so difficult to understand here.

I am pretty sure that there are exactly 0 systems, that can run the steam version fine.
We collectively have so many different system configurations and tried a lot of software "fixes", that the likelihood of this being caused by some external factor is getting slimmer by the minute.

As of this day, no official response from the dev team, so my conclussion can only be, that someone there decided "meh, good enough, we are literally incapable of fixing this"

And I am pretty sure you don't know Jack. That's a bold claim when you actrually have no clue how it runs on other people rigs and no way to prove everyone has stutters.

[Kurai Shidosha]

Messaggio originale di Andran:

There are clearly some systems can run both versions fine, and some systems that can run the Microsoft but not the Steam version flawlessly. I don't see what's so difficult to understand here.

Without witnessing it firsthand either in person or through a video showing a frametime graph with 0 stutters, I don't believe a single word from anyone saying the contrary.

I've had people swear to me decades ago that v-sync doesn't cause input lag. They were absolutely positive of this. I of course knew they were objectively wrong but lacked the tools to prove it. Years later the YouTuber Battle(non)Sense did the tests and took the measurements showing to the world definitively YES v-sync does cause massive input lag.

So why did these people swear to me it didn't? Because they're clueless. Some people have 100ms reaction times, some people have 300ms reaction times. Some people have great eyesight, some people have horrible eyesight. Basically anyone saying this game doesn't stutter on the Steam version simply falls into the latter group. There's nothing special about their game or setup, it's them.

So that's why I've learned over the years to give 0 credence to anyone making bold and contrarian claims without any proof. They're literally useless.

[𝓵𝓲𝓵 𝓶𝓾𝓼𝓱]

Messaggio originale di Kurai Shidosha:

It's 100% the game's fault and nothing you or I can do can fix it. My friend's who own the game on Microsoft store have come over and tested it on my PC. That version runs flawlessly, no crashes no stuttering. Soon as you switch to the Steam version it's a mess. If these people seriously abandon this game in this state I am going to be disgusted and reconsider ever buying their games again.

lol bud get a better pc

[alex24buc]

I also confirm the stutters with the steam version. The microsoft version runs butter smooth. My PC is strong enough with rtx 3090 and 10980xe@4,5 ghz.

[Nomster]

Messaggio originale di KinZ♡:

lol bud get a better pc

What a helpful contribution to this thread. Hope your godlike machine that runs this mess flawlessly lasts a long time. This future tech is probably pretty expensive, considering it does not exist yet!

[Sysgen]

From some web site[respawnfirst.com]:

Open Nvidia Control Panel > Manage 3D Settings > Program Settings > select Forza Horizon 4 and make the following changes.

Anti-aliasing-FXAA – “Off”
Anti-aliasing-Gamma Correction – “Off”
CUDA GPUs – “All”
Low Latency Mode – Ultra.
Set Power Management to “Prefer Maximum Performance”
Shader Cache – “On” only if you are using an HDD. Don’t need to enable it for an SSD.
Set Texture filtering – Quality to “High Performance”
Triple Buffering – “Off”
Set Vertical Sync to “Use the 3D application setting”

Also exit from any PC monitoring utility or injector including MSI Afterburner.

I start the game with about 30% ram usage and the game runs at about 70% (I have 12gb).

I use a tool to "constrain" the operating system, and clear memory (the tools on this store, yes I Know they are somewhat controversial but I have 99% no stutter except when the game is connecting disconnecting and a couple seconds when Forzathon starts) before starting.

Amazing optimized game I can play at 60fps, ultimate settings with a 590X and an I7-920 (1st gen, 2009 Intel cpu).

[秋]

Messaggio originale di KinZ♡:

Messaggio originale di Kurai Shidosha:

It's 100% the game's fault and nothing you or I can do can fix it. My friend's who own the game on Microsoft store have come over and tested it on my PC. That version runs flawlessly, no crashes no stuttering. Soon as you switch to the Steam version it's a mess. If these people seriously abandon this game in this state I am going to be disgusted and reconsider ever buying their games again.

lol bud get a better pc

get a better steam account without a ban.

[alex24buc]

Finally, the stuttering is gone with the new update.

[Kurai Shidosha]

Can confirm, this update actually made a huge difference. It used to be when you first zone into the world after loading, it would be a constant barrage of harsh 50ms+ stutters. Now, only one stutter and then it's gone. There are still the occassional stutter here and there, but it's just one and then back to smooth again. FINALLY.

But oh wait it must have been something I did on my computer to fix this problem. It totally had nothing to do with the game or this patch. Silly me 🙄🙄🙄