Logitech G27 Clutch not working

[TwitchyFool]

Just bought this game thinking it would be fun, and my clutch doesn't work. is there a fix or do I have to wait for microsoft to fix this?

[flaep]

Same here.
Maybe something with steam big picture controller mapping?

I found this:
"Launching the title with a pad and then turning on the wheel, results in pad settings being applied. *Please, launch the game with the wheel only*"

https://support.forzamotorsport.net/hc/en-us/articles/360001991068-FH4-Known-Issues

but did not try it so far

[nebz1309]

Same problem, also just bought the game and G27 clutch not working, what gives?

[BrunoHaru]

Same problem with the g27 clutch here, tried to contact forza support and:

Thank you for continuing to report this issue, as other players are seeing this issue as well please make sure you are properly updated via your wheels branded page and as well as your system. and allow are team to look into this issue, for now we will announce to the community when we have a solution...

So yeah, no solution at all :(

[Blast Beefcake]

Also have a G27 and the clutch issue. I've tried changing driver versions and reinstalling drivers, no difference. Very disappointing, I've never had any issues with any other racing games.

[10k]

same problem as mine but different wheel. I just bought the Thrustmaster t80 for this game yesterday and bought FH4 last 2 days ago and the wheel is not recognizing in game. When you have intsalled or downloaded FH4 from microsoft store your wheel is fully functional without a problem, they released this game on steam this last february and that means there are still some bugs. hopefully they can fix this problem asap. I don't want to waste my money anymore bc I already spend so much money on FH4 in 2 days.

[nebz1309]

As well as the Clutch issue, decided to see what the game looks like clutchless, drove around a bit, also did a benchmark wich reported no issues on Ultra settings with a FPS of over 130, but driving around a bit the game suddenly freezes and throws me out.
All my other racing games run 100% no issues.
Very dissapointed in FH4 and Steam

[Omnipresent authority figure]

Someone know maybe where are locate game settings file? Maybe we can manually change pedal #3 to pedal #1?

[Corax]

Have same problem with g27. clutch no working + broken FFB
Forza Motorsport 7 from MS store works correctly.

[TwitchyFool]

So I bought this in june and its now august and still no fix, glad I wasted money on this game.

[BrunoHaru]

yeah, it's pretty frustrating. no solution at all. wondering if the new forza game will have the same problem. maybe it will be better to buy it on microsoft store...

[Draylynn]

Originally posted by nebz1309:

As well as the Clutch issue, decided to see what the game looks like clutchless, drove around a bit, also did a benchmark wich reported no issues on Ultra settings with a FPS of over 130, but driving around a bit the game suddenly freezes and throws me out.
All my other racing games run 100% no issues.
Very dissapointed in FH4 and Steam

Forza tends to crash if the wheel disconnects or is interrupted (make sure the cables are firmly in the unit and tied down).
The clutch issue seems to be related to Steam users, makes me think if Steams controller stuff is interfering with this particular model.

G27 has a few problems in some games where G29 does not. For example: G27 'can' cause massive stuttering issues if the G HUB software is open in ETS.

"Disconnect the wheel, uninstall Logitech profiler, restart pc. Download this one from here, select windows 10 and 64-bit if your windows is 64bits. http://support.logitech.com/en_us/product/g27-racing-wheel Only plug usb of your wheel when the software installation says to plug usb."
Have you tried this?

[TwitchyFool]

New update and still no fix, this is serverely disappointing.

[feroid]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOLVED SOLVED SOLVED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

finaly I solved this sh*t...

Simptoms:

Wheel Logitech G27, Windows 10 , Forza horizon 4 Steam Edition do not see clutch axis. Installed last driver from logitech what is provided by vendor now for this whell. (lgs510_x64)
if I try demo from MS Store there is no issue.

Reason why this is not functional:

finaly reason for this behavior is in Logitech profiler. Game from MS Store is functional because it is sandboxed as UWP Application and profiler has not power to do his dirty job.
(proof for this is in profiler config xml file, there is maping only for 3axis) you even can modifi this config with notepad.
location is in User/AppData/Local/Logitech/GamingSoftware/*.xml

default settings:
<Mapping><Source Type="Axis" ID="0" /><Destination Type="Axis" ID="1" /></Mapping><Mapping><Source Type="Axis" ID="2" /><Destination Type="Axis" ID="4" /></Mapping><Mapping><Source Type="Axis" ID="3" /><Destination Type="Axis" ID="8" /></Mapping>

you can rewrite Source ID to value 4 for use Clutch pedal as brake (destination 8) for example, but adding new maping for clutch is not functional for some reason. May be there is some settings or hardcoded things that limit output source to 3 Only....
So if you game use input from "logitech" filtered data, and not raw input you newer by able use more that 3 axis...

resolution:
you must use microsoft provided drivers. so completly uninstall Logitech tools.. and make sure your drivers on wheel device is:

"USB input device"() and "HID-compliant game controller"
if drivers is not configured properly you must reinstall drivers by device control panel/ update driver/select driver manualy

your drivers events must look like this:

USB Input device>
Device USB\VID_046D&PID_C29B\5&38e97a59&0&4 was configured.
Driver Name: input.inf
Class Guid: {745a17a0-74d3-11d0-b6fe-00a0c90f57da}
Driver Date: 06/21/2006
Driver Version: 10.0.19041.868
Driver Provider: Microsoft
Driver Section: HID_Inst.NT
Driver Rank: 0xFF3202
Matching Device Id: USB\Class_03
Outranked Drivers:
Device Updated: false
Parent Device: USB\ROOT_HUB30\4&5375334&0&0

HID-compliant game controller>
Device HID\VID_046D&PID_C29B\6&73761ee&2&0000 was configured.
Driver Name: input.inf
Class Guid: {745a17a0-74d3-11d0-b6fe-00a0c90f57da}
Driver Date: 06/21/2006
Driver Version: 10.0.19041.868
Driver Provider: Microsoft
Driver Section: HID_Raw_Inst.NT
Driver Rank: 0xFF1003
Matching Device Id: HID_DEVICE_SYSTEM_GAME
Outranked Drivers: input.inf:HID_DEVICE:00FF1005
Device Updated: false
Parent Device: USB\VID_046D&PID_C29B\5&38e97a59&0&4

Well now wheel is joystick without special drivers, if you look to control panel there is windows clasic joystick testing utility. Whele is X, Clutch is Y, and there is 2 sliders (gas and brake)

now you can define custom wheel setings in forza4 to complain your needs
only one issue left, without logitech profiler there is no GUI to set advanced configuration of wheel like 900st angle. but there is workaround.. you can USE hidden whell configuration via pressing whell buton in same time ;P

guide for this is here:
G27/G25/DFGT hidden settings
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/g27-g25-dfgt-undocumented-wheel-lock-settings-guide.286646/

[HushKitt]

Originally posted by feroid:

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOLVED SOLVED SOLVED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

finaly I solved this sh*t...

Simptoms:

Wheel Logitech G27, Windows 10 , Forza horizon 4 Steam Edition do not see clutch axis. Installed last driver from logitech what is provided by vendor now for this whell. (lgs510_x64)
if I try demo from MS Store there is no issue.

Reason why this is not functional:

finaly reason for this behavior is in Logitech profiler. Game from MS Store is functional because it is sandboxed as UWP Application and profiler has not power to do his dirty job.
(proof for this is in profiler config xml file, there is maping only for 3axis) you even can modifi this config with notepad.
location is in User/AppData/Local/Logitech/GamingSoftware/*.xml

default settings:
<Mapping><Source Type="Axis" ID="0" /><Destination Type="Axis" ID="1" /></Mapping><Mapping><Source Type="Axis" ID="2" /><Destination Type="Axis" ID="4" /></Mapping><Mapping><Source Type="Axis" ID="3" /><Destination Type="Axis" ID="8" /></Mapping>

you can rewrite Source ID to value 4 for use Clutch pedal as brake (destination 8) for example, but adding new maping for clutch is not functional for some reason. May be there is some settings or hardcoded things that limit output source to 3 Only....
So if you game use input from "logitech" filtered data, and not raw input you newer by able use more that 3 axis...

resolution:
you must use microsoft provided drivers. so completly uninstall Logitech tools.. and make sure your drivers on wheel device is:

"USB input device"() and "HID-compliant game controller"
if drivers is not configured properly you must reinstall drivers by device control panel/ update driver/select driver manualy

your drivers events must look like this:

USB Input device>
Device USB\VID_046D&PID_C29B\5&38e97a59&0&4 was configured.
Driver Name: input.inf
Class Guid: {745a17a0-74d3-11d0-b6fe-00a0c90f57da}
Driver Date: 06/21/2006
Driver Version: 10.0.19041.868
Driver Provider: Microsoft
Driver Section: HID_Inst.NT
Driver Rank: 0xFF3202
Matching Device Id: USB\Class_03
Outranked Drivers:
Device Updated: false
Parent Device: USB\ROOT_HUB30\4&5375334&0&0

HID-compliant game controller>
Device HID\VID_046D&PID_C29B\6&73761ee&2&0000 was configured.
Driver Name: input.inf
Class Guid: {745a17a0-74d3-11d0-b6fe-00a0c90f57da}
Driver Date: 06/21/2006
Driver Version: 10.0.19041.868
Driver Provider: Microsoft
Driver Section: HID_Raw_Inst.NT
Driver Rank: 0xFF1003
Matching Device Id: HID_DEVICE_SYSTEM_GAME
Outranked Drivers: input.inf:HID_DEVICE:00FF1005
Device Updated: false
Parent Device: USB\VID_046D&PID_C29B\5&38e97a59&0&4

Well now wheel is joystick without special drivers, if you look to control panel there is windows clasic joystick testing utility. Whele is X, Clutch is Y, and there is 2 sliders (gas and brake)

now you can define custom wheel setings in forza4 to complain your needs
only one issue left, without logitech profiler there is no GUI to set advanced configuration of wheel like 900st angle. but there is workaround.. you can USE hidden whell configuration via pressing whell buton in same time ;P

guide for this is here:
G27/G25/DFGT hidden settings
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/g27-g25-dfgt-undocumented-wheel-lock-settings-guide.286646/

Did everything you said and still have the issue; when the accelerator is pressed both the accelerator and the clutch is pressed so can't drive. I can now map the clutch but nothing will change as the gas and clutch is still combined.

[feroid]

well.. what configuration of combine Gas and Brake you are using before uninstaling logitech driver? may be some memory in whell HW.. do you have behavior like: "Whele is X, Clutch is Y, and there is 2 sliders (gas and brake)"?
PS: I tested this solution on G27 only..